Young adults who identify as asexual feel excluded from the wider LGBTQ community

Tbf I imagine this must be pretty hard for teenagers, at that age when practically all many of them think and talk about is who they fancy. Ditto later, at the age when all their friends are settling down, starting families etc. But I don't really see what the LGB etc communities are meant to do about that. As a previous poster pointed out, not collecting stamps isn't a hobby! Presumably there are online asexual groups.

So most of your friends are obsessed with camels, a few are obsessed with, let's say, goats, and there is a special group set up so the goat loving pet owners don't feel excluded. You don't like pets at all but somehow not being included in the goat owner group is a terrible thing?

Makes no sense. Camels or goats. Same difference to you, surely, you don't like any pets. Start a group for people who don't like pets

the camel is just an analogy for relationships, that is all, and particularly as a teenager, you are going to find that it takes up almost all the conversation, planning and prioritising of all your friends in all your free time

I am trying to help other people understand what it is like for young asexuals, where asexuality is not recognised or accepted

@Nimbostratus100 so glad your arm is feeling better 😜.

Sorry, but no, I don't get the camel thing. People's lives include so much more than their sexual orientation, it really isn't the literal "camel in the room" you're describing 🤷🏻‍♀️
Didn't anyone around you work, study, exercise, pursue hobbies, have an interest in music, fashion, etc?
You're so hung up on your lack of "recognition". Why? What form of recognition were you looking for?

To be honest I am thoroughly bored of hearing about what other people do or don’t want to do sexually in their private lives.

The constant need for attention and validation from other people over your sexual preferences (or not) is wearing.

What the fuck is wrong with people these days?

I heard that some tennis players felt excluded from my badminton club 😟

And @Nimbostratus100 you really are such a hypocrite. So far you have told everyone how you don't like people coming on to you in one thread and on another how trans people are not a threat. Yes you don't understand men and sex but to be a victim and also so inconsiderate of other women really is something else.

The problem is this idea that people need to only be with those like them. It's gone a bit far now to the point that young people struggle to be tolerant. It is actually normal to have friends who don't think the exact same way as you, gay friends, straight friends, asexual friends, vegan friends, tory friends and yourself be a meat eater who is centre left.

The alphabet circus doesn’t include someone? How very phobic.

try and imagine what it is like please

you are a young teen, with a wide friendship group you have grown up close to.

your best friends starts spending their time discussing the opposite sex, but you cant see why

they stop prioritising the fun things you have always done together, and want to start dating - you cant see any reason to do this

they start describing thoughts and feelings that are totally alien to you.

ALL of your friends are suddenly like this, and nobody can understand why you are not.

I have come up with an analogy in the past to try and explain what it is like

Imagine you get up today and spend time with whoever it is you normally spend time with, partner, whoever. They tell you they are choosing a camel to keep in their living room. This makes no sense to you. But they are suddenly obsessed, and all they will do or talk about it the catalogue of camels they have, and the way their home and lives will need to be adapted to keep this camel happy in the living room.

You cant work out what on earth is wrong with them, but you head off for your normal daily activity, work or school, or what ever. You sit down with your colleagues, and they are also discussing where to get a camel from, and how to change their living rooms to keep it. You talk about work during work, but all coffee breaks and idle chat is exclusively about camels

People start acquiring camels and stop spending time on all the things you have done in the past, and devote themselves entirely to the camel in their living room, They cant understand why you dont want one too

Many news stories are about camels, camel welfare, camel diet, camel diseases, and the need for every human to have one in their living room.

Most films and books are about camels, and how everyone needs one, and no one is complete without one.

Most music and songs is about camels

You try very hard to show an interst in camels. People are alwasy introducing you to their camels. You even half heartedly try and rearrange your living room for a possible future camel. Everyone but everyone, knows you dont have a camel, have never had a camel and are not even particularly interested in camels

Your parents start complaining that all their friends kids are at least TRYING to acquire or care for a camel

Your siblings start "gently" suggesting you speak to a doctor about you camel problem

everyone in the entire world is centred on rearranging their homes and lives, acquiring and caring for a camel in their living room

None of it makes any sense to you at all, but you dont know anyone else who isnt camel committed, and you seem to be the only one in the world, and the overall consensus is that the problem is with you

I hope you can try and imagine what it is like to be young, and asexual, and alone, without understanding and recognition

Maybe it would be good for them to think of other forms of "community" like, maybe, the actual community where they live, or a hobby group, or church, or volunteer organization like a food bank?

Why a bunch of people whose only link seems to be - well, it's hard to say what, these days. But certainly they can differ in terms of things like interests, politics, beliefs about the world, values - maybe not the best place to find friends? The whole "we love everyone, inclusion" love-bomb sounds great but doesn't actually mean any of the people with that label have anything in common.

Why tag on to the alphabet soup? They could form their own group surely? Do asexuals suffer discrimination? How would anyone know someone else was asexual unless they told them? What people do or don't do in their private life is private. No one else's business. It's all very playground these days. You're so mean to me 🙄

Surely only LGB (and straight) are sexual orientations?
Attraction to make, female, or both, no matter what your sex.
Anything else may want to feel part of a community, but let’s not pretend that the TQ+ is about sexual orientation, and it’s for this reason that many LGBs now feel great disconnect from the very community they created.

Asexuality may be a thing, but it’s not a sexual orientation, and no one lost their job or went to prison because they were asexual.

Excluded from the community? You can't be serious?? Are they made to wear a bell around their necks so people can hear them coming and run away? 🙄

When I attended LGB events at uni they were often pub/ club nights. The asexuals did have their own meet-up, but for some reason it banned alcohol. so the LGBs were hanging out , having sex and relationships and booze while the asexual students had cake and chatted about not having sex. At the risk of sounding offensive it’s a bit like evangelical Christian students saying they don’t fit in with LGB society - they just seem to have very different interests !

If you can't comprehend the very, very, very easy to understand meaning in the post you quoted you obviously have almost no critical thinking skills. You think your nonsense was some sort of 'gotcha.' What it actually was, was you devaluing everything you post and every explanation you try to make because you've shown your comprehension ability to be so poor that nothing you say is worth paying attention to. Well Done!

@RaininginDarling

''No, what's sad is people needing to create more and more niche 'identities' to feel part of a community at all.

I find it really really sad that young, mostly straight, people need to box themselves into inevitably transient labels to improve their social standing.

Meanwhile, everyone else gets on with their lives.

Get outside more, stop navelgazing, you'll be much happier''

Again, just pure ignorance, and probably a fair amount of fear of anyone who is not like you.

When you have to resort to petty comments like ''get outside more...'' you have already lost any kind of credibility and any point you were trying to make.

I think the only person who is not ''getting on with their lives'' is you as you seem to have an unhealthy interest in other people's sex/love lives and how they choose to express and describe themselves.

This is also conveniently passed as concerns for young people to make your views sound acceptable, when it fact it is just good old intolerance and lack of understanding.

No, what's sad is people needing to create more and more niche 'identities' to feel part of a community at all.

I find it really really sad that young, mostly straight, people need to box themselves into inevitably transient labels to improve their social standing.

Meanwhile, everyone else gets on with their lives.

Get outside more, stop navelgazing, you'll be much happier

@Nimbostratus100
Well, that's where it gets twisted for me! Help me out here: let's say it is individuals choice to define themselves. Can they earn/get/gain the right of their chosen orientation?(other than straight).

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Their fund Wes have been robbed.

Is this the case of D&I consultants creating unnecessary work so they can put it in their annual report to keep getting funding? Who the fuck cares?

Thats not a difficult question, people define themselves as gay, straight, bi or ace, who else is going to define them? no one else can, you can only define yourself

RaininginDarling · Today 09:21
Greenfairydust · Today 09:13

''FGS. LG and B are sexual orientations. Everything else is personality. No wonder people are fed up of the alphabet 'community' it literally includes everybody.''

So you are basically fed up with everyone who is not straight and you can't comprehend that there is such a thing as communities or that people are more than who they have sex with?

I think you are showing your true colours here. Very sad.