Interview with Dr Mrs Debbie Hayton

Understanding biological reality is not hard, but even then, Hayton fails.

There was quite a long conversation with him on here where he seemed very surprised that the size of a woman's breasts did not indicate her social standing amongst peers. The larger they were, apparently, the higher up the hierarchy she went.

If I recall correctly, it was right after Hayton wore a sundress to a KJK event with some fake breasts.

He seemed completely oblivious to the fact that associating big breasts with social cachet could be considered the result of watching too much porn. Or that female objectification is not a manual on how to be a woman.

Hayton is a self confessed AGP. A fetish where being treated as a woman is sexually arousing. As a teacher he helped write the union guidelines for schools to let transwomen to use the women's toilets and for his pupils to call him Miss.

But everyone needs to make a living, and if Hayton wants to position himself as the moderate voice of transwomen, that's entirely his prerogative.

Personally, I don't really take the word of an autogynophile that seriously, when it comes to women's rights.

Is AGP OK now, as long as the face is friendly enough?

Is it OK that DH's family is collateral damage because DH says some of the right things and takes selfies with the right people?

Has nobody on this thread seen the channel 4 special where his wife's desperation shows clearly on her face?

DH is driven by self confessed sexual proclivities just as much as any other AGP. And anyone who welcomes that point of view into feminist spaces is playing right into the game, as well as pushing DH's wife right out.

And me. I don't think any of them are trans.

They all look female to me.

I don't agree with Debbie Hayton on a lot of things but I'd rather have all trans people be more like Debbie Hayton than have what most of them currently seem to be.

I'm very surprised there hasn't been more media commentary on the fact that some of these Wolverhampton/Walsall 'women' are clearly not the old-fashioned type of woman, as Ricky would put it. Why aren't people saying the obvious?

Yes they really do hate us - it's dripping off the screen from the lovely Freda.

Freda appears to hate women so much, it's a mystery why Freda ever wanted to become one.

Imho this applies to most TW.

Debbie and Freda are two cheeks of the same hairy arse.

Debbie has admitted to using the ladies'loos at a feminist event, and staying at the YWCA for another.

He's appointed himself as AGP spokesman for women and girls and is adored by some professional feminists.

On Twitter he argues for the rights of men like him to be allowed access to women's spaces such as prisons. Because he transitioned a long time ago, and he's absolutely harmless, and we can't possibly lump him in with the other transwomen come lately.

I don't trust him.

I agree.

BiologicalKitty · Today 13:55
Nothing about DH is honest. Nothing.

Why do you say that?

Nothing about DH is honest. Nothing.

I think it's been a long journey for DH, but it's good to see the position they are now taking. I agree. I asked Debbie personally about the use of female changing rooms and I know they now know why they shouldn’t use them. We should allow for trans people to listen and learn too.

I think it's been a long journey for DH, but it's good to see the position they are now taking.

Always interesting to observe how those in favour of 'trans rights' treat trans people who go off message. Demonstrates as with the LGB thing, it is not about supporting the diverse group, it's about trying to limit that group to a political movement and punish and exclude the non conformists.

I find too it's a mistake to see it as 'identifying as' or 'joining'. The desire in fact usually when explored is not to join, but to replace.

Not so much thin end of the wedge, as slim sliver of the cake.

And we know that men love to hog the whole cake, and then moan there isn't more.

I know I do!

BiologicalKitty · Today 09:30
DH is just as much an AGP as anyone else who enjoys larping as a woman. DH has admitted this.

I will never understand why women think DH is special or worth listening to.

Is it because DH dresses like a harmless school marm? Although even that has been changing into more sexualised clothing over time.

It is because DH is honest, and also understands biological reality.

Thank you Freda for that wonderful example of why we want men to stay the fuck out of our spaces.

The article specifically singles out the 8 women out of the 21 NOT because the Daily Mail is being sexist but because its more newsworthy specifically because it is much rarer for women to be convicted of CS offences (though grimly pretty much all child grooming gangs will contain at least one woman the majority are usually male, and solitary offenders are pretty much always male). So it doesn't prove what Frida thinks it proves

No husbands for me! 😆

Is "Frida" Freda Wallace?
If so, Freda is always unpleasant and aggressive. Freda appears to hate women so much, it's a mystery why Freda ever wanted to become one.

@BiologicalKitty I thought you were talking about your husband for a minute there

My bad, it's got to be a rare day that 7 women are convicted of such crimes. And no wonder we are skeptical when lots of other convictions are for men pretending.

DH is just as much an AGP as anyone else who enjoys larping as a woman. DH has admitted this.

I will never understand why women think DH is special or worth listening to.

Is it because DH dresses like a harmless school marm? Although even that has been changing into more sexualised clothing over time.

Hayton has written before how pupils now use Miss after the transitioning. Again, that hasn't changed as far as I know