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Transmen

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Questioningfolke · 05/04/2023 09:58

Lots of people generally think that people should use the toilets/facilities of their biological sex.
This would mean transmen using the women's bathroom. Lots of transmen 'pass' as men, which means if they're in the women's toilets then people will fell unsafe and uncomfortable with a 'man' in the women's toilets. You wouldn't know if they had a penis or not. They're just a man in the women's bathroom.

Lots of time you really can't tell a transman is trans not just a man if they've taken hormones.

Birth certs and GRCs and genitals aren't checked when you enter a public space.

This could prompt men claiming theyre transmen to enter women's spaces too, no?

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SmartHome · 05/04/2023 10:25

I know several trans men and in all cases, it's completely obvious to me, mainly from their height and frame size, that they are female. I wouldn't bat an eyelid about them being in the female toilets, same as if a butch lesbian was in there. Its the fetishistic men that loom over me and are taking weird selfies in the mirror that I object to.

donquixotedelamancha · 05/04/2023 10:25

Clymene · 05/04/2023 09:58

This thread has been done to death on here. Have a search.

This.

Briefly: If a post-op trans man passes the debate is completely moot because no-one will challenge him in the men's loos.

The public policy challenge is about people who present as their sex but 'identify' as the opposite.

For very good reasons toilets are single sex and most people want it that way. If you want mixed sex @Questioningfolke it's up to you to convince people.

unclebuck · 05/04/2023 10:21

TM are female so fine to use the women's toilets. They are not part of the class of people that carries out the majority of sexual assaults. HTH

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 05/04/2023 10:16

Lots of trans men do not pass as men to women and men don't care as they are not a threat to them.

Ingenieur · 05/04/2023 10:11

Clymene · 05/04/2023 09:58

This thread has been done to death on here. Have a search.

Truly it has.

To save the OP some time, as transmen by definition are natal women they would be welcome in the women's loos. If transmen feel more validated usung the men's loos then good good for them.

But ultimately this isn't a problem created by women, it's not our problem to solve.

Clymene · 05/04/2023 09:58

This thread has been done to death on here. Have a search.

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