[RNZ] Spike in online hate toward trans community after Posie Parker visit - researchers

What did she say that justified assault by a larger man? I don’t think she actually got to say anything, did she? The blondeness is irrelevant but the size absolutely is. I’m about the same height and I’m fairly able to stand up for myself but even a small man of 5 foot 6 could easily knock me out with little effort. Most of the rampaging angry men captured on video at the NZ protest were substantially larger than 5’ 6”. What did the elderly women who were assaulted say that justified the violence that they received?

What do they generally post about? Is it usually this kind of nonsense?

Being seen attacking a small blonde lady for wanting to talk?
This kind of shit is what I take up at.
As a small blonde lady probably around PPs age (not sure of her actual age without googling) it's just not "wanting to talk" ffs.
Should I never be held accountable for my actions because leave me and my opinions alone, I'm blonde and small?!
I find that offensive tbh!

I lived in NZ for a while and went out with a kiwi for a long time. I cannot imagine any single kiwi I ever met endorsing the kinds of views the NZ media presents. There is a huge huge gulf between the ordinary public and the media on this issue.

This is so true. The ordinary public are very concerned about the political power that is pushing transgendertrend. They are also kiwis, so cowardly and unwilling to 'upset anyone' by saying what they think. Kiwis are so conservative. And not prepared to 'be the person that wasn't nice'.

Canadians also.

I've seen the username before, they're a regular poster

Does it ever occur to you that the alleged "spike" in hostility might be nothing mirw than people objecting to one of the oh-so-marginalised (lmao) chucking a couple of pints of tomato juice over a woman, an act of violent assault that most people take exception to? I'm well aware of how anycriticism of trans people is spun as "hate"
I was going to answer that sensibly as thought it valid point ( don't agree with soup throwing myself, think it's assault) and yes could be hostility there) then saw your lmao and dont know why I'm even bothering

People are angry that a 70 year old woman got her skull fractured by a man who head-butted her and quickly followed up with 3-4 punches to the face and had to be pulled OFF her before he killed her. Are you claiming that only a transphobic Nazi would be angry over this male violence? We saw it. Everyone fucking saw it. Your gaslighting is weak.

Why do people on here always do this when they see a post or poster they dont like?!
Try some nonsense shit/conspiracy theory about their name?
Like they're trying to discredit?
It's ridiculous.

This thread brings to mind a sticker I saw on Etsy. Actions meet consequences.

Did you really think that mob looked good for trans people?
Being seen attacking a small blonde lady for wanting to talk?
Didn't you think people might go and research online what it was actually about and find out the truth?
It's entirely unsurprising if there's backlash, not that I'd trust any reporting from NZ media after seeing the lies they've printed recently.
TBH I'd imagine the backlash consists of disagreeing with the mob and not much else.
No one out there on the GC side is threatening rape or punching old ladies in the face.

I lived in NZ for a while and went out with a kiwi for a long time. I cannot imagine any single kiwi I ever met endorsing the kinds of views the NZ media presents. There is a huge huge gulf between the ordinary public and the media on this issue.

Who knew that New Zealanders are so politically immature that the arrival of one woman from the UK to the country has thrown it into turmoil.

No. New Zealanders everywhere are talking (whispering) in private about transgender politics. All the politicians know its a hot potato. None of them will touch it with a shitty stick. Pack of chicken shits.

Oh look, she is being blamed for creating polarisation between politicians as well

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/the-front-page-do-culture-wars-win-politicians-votes/

Who knew that New Zealanders are so politically immature that the arrival of one woman from the UK to the country has thrown it into turmoil.

And we think the UK has a problme with gutter press.

BTW it's not hateful to say that Woman = Adult Human Female.

NZer here (live abroad). I used to respect RNZ. Not now. They not once actually set out the reasons why women were attending the Let Women Speak meetings. Never once did they explain that, actually, the women there had views that were held fairly commonly in communities all over NZ, about the protection and safety of women and children. Never once wrpte about women's concerns that sometimes, dangerous people self-ID in order to be well, dangerous. Or their concerns that their kids could be manipulated and medicalised in the name of inclusivity.
Instead, they headlined words like "Nazi" and "anti-trans activists" and "anti-LGBTQ". They made it sound like the women gathering there were against the human rights of the 'poor nice calm transgender folks'.
RNZ let everyone down. Poor journalism.

Oh I see, this is just part of the narrative that KJK / LWS are just part of some threatening right wing alliance. And PP has made them worse than before.

Quote: They say the content is now being widely distributed by anti-mandate and anti-government groups. ie codre for right wing groups.

Or is it just that the interns have been left in charge.

Tennessee?

There was also a school shooting in Arizona the following day. The TRA's have been quite high-profile this week for some not very positive reasons.

oops late night type - images should be injuries

Maybe part of the problem is in fact the mainstream media in NZ endlessly publishing defamatory stories about KJK, to the extent that people reacted against this force feeding of the trans narrative. https://www.spectator.com.au/2023/04/the-death-of-new-zealands-msm/ (If you paste this link into https://archive.ph you get the whole article)

Though agree as observed up thread the lack of a link to any data probably means that the trans community is suddenly having to face up to the fact that if you physically attack women, and cause actual images people will tell you how much they dislike you doing that.

That isn't hate. that is telling you that if you behave like a hooligan people see you as a hooligan and respond accordingly.

Not forgetting that male violence stopped women from speaking. And now you act all innocent and hurt that people tell you what you did is disgusting and anti democratic.

If RNZ is NZ's pound shop equivalent of the Beeb, that would explain a lot about the state of rational, science-based thinking there. FFS!

Every time I read it I hear a fragment of the Genesis song…

‘There’s too many men’

That is the same media outlet that used lies to whip up hate against KJK as she was heading for NZ

Absolutely this!

No-one here is in favour of hate, obviously! GC feminists are the ones on the receiving end - not just online, but in real life. How many trans people/their allies had their skulls fractured in NZ during KJK's event?

This quote from the article you posted is genuinely offensive to any one with any commitment to academic rigour. ‘Genocidal’ conduct which has resulted in ummmm zero deaths or even reports of actual assaults against trans people.

Not to mention that it's offensive to Holocaust survivors and their families, survivors of the Killing Fields in Cambodia, and anyone else who has suffered actual genocide. This shit is beyond spin, it's outright flat LIES.