[RNZ] Spike in online hate toward trans community after Posie Parker visit - researchers

Transpeople existing isn't going to "erase" women. Women, or any other group, don't magically disappear if someone changes sex. That isn't how physics works.

Doesn't Stonewall replacing "same-sex" orientation with " same-gender" orientation erase the whole concept of homosexuality?

Gender identity ideology is as homophobic and misogynist as the USA's most right-wing Christian fundamentalist nutcases. By no coincidence at all, both have burned books written by the same author...

Did KJK actually call for anyone to be abusive or threatening? Probably not right?

I guess you could argue that she was unfairly demonising people, and so still responsible on some level, but that would need examples of her rhetoric and an explanation as to why she crossed the line. (Which is somewhat subjective and people are going to disagree over to some extent.)

As people have mentioned, you have to factor in the media rhetoric, the trans-activist rhetoric, the trans-activist behaviour, and what part that may play in raising the temperature and helping to encourage unacceptable bad behaviour.

Lol, telling men they're not lesbians, isn't erasing them. Dearie me.

Quite.

Accusations of genocide if the current narrative is anything to go by.

Yep and you can’t change sex

And women deserve their own spaces

versus

Decapitate them, turd, assault, punching, hostage, rape threats, death threats

Tough one whoever can be the more violent

what would happen if people started pouring tomato soup on the heads of trans people at rallies, beating them up or holding them hostage for 3 hours?

Feel free to exist just use your own spaces not those of women

"Enjoy ur erasure" Shon Faye

If biological women started identifying as transwomen and taking parts playing transwomen in films and TV do you think that would be acceptable?

or the old chestnut of "You're trying to erase us"

Isn't this what Gender Critical people say to transpeople? And isn't this the reason the LGB-Alliance give to justify existing?

The thing is 'hate' and 'anti trans' and 'transphobic' has been redefined to mean Mummy / women saying 'no'.

Absolutely. "Hate speech" seems to be defined as "Anything I hear that I don't like". See also: "Literal violence", because I've never seen anyone clarify what violence trans people are at risk of as a result of comments they don't like, unless you count suicide risk (in which case they should be receiving some sort of psychiatric treatment) or the old chestnut of "You're trying to erase us" which, as you say, is a tantrum-style reaction to someone being told that they can't just do as they please.

That which people hate to hear spoken and that which meets the legal definition of hate speech can be two completely different things.

I don’t think it is hate so much as contempt

The thing is 'hate' and 'anti trans' and 'transphobic' has been redefined to mean Mummy / women saying 'no'.

So frankly I just don't believe these stories anymore.

KJK was originally interviewed for a potential 'hate crime' for describing accurately albeit in blunt language what Susie Green did to her son.

The only physical violence and real hate is from the other side.

People have eyes and can watch the footage themselves. I suspect what is dressed up as 'hate' is the grown ups waking up and saying 'no you can't have all the toys all of the time because that's not fair'.

I am not surprised that there is a growth in online anti trans rhetoric

There are millions of people like me in the world who for a long time were in the be kind, live and let live camp. The increasing violence of the tra's is turning those like me ⁹firmly over to the side of letting women speak.

It is a spectacular own goal

Online hate:
No.
Men are not women.
LOL.
Male violence is male violence no matter what it wears.
Stop appropriating specious "intersex" identities.
I disagree with you.
That's a man.
He.
Him.

Is the purpose of the disinformation project to spread disinformation? It certainly looks like it.

Yes, It's Posie's fault... I'm sure there's no possible way at all that it could be the crazy things they scream at the top of their lungs that's turning people against their cause... 🙄

Sean & Ben expose the fake news of RNZ
The Platform NZ - 11 April 2023 - don't know exactly when this was broadcast, 7am but I can't work out if it was 10th, 11th or 12th April NZ time

Aww, shame its gone, I was looking forward to discovering how people's fracturing skulls and crushed windpipes were cruelly hurting the hands of the peaceful and loving people just wanting to get on with their day of bashing and strangling.

Radio NZ has already deleted the tweet linking to the Fake News story - but not the story itself . . . yet.

Deleted tweet:
https://twitter.com/rnz_news/status/1645165223157047296

You can find it on https://archive.today/

Thanks!

Pleased to see Sean Plunket got his Twitter suspension sorted - just had a quick scroll through and it looks like he was only offline for 2 days?

More fake news about to be debunked.

FAKE NEWS

Police urge rainbow community to report threats, violence in wake of Posie Parker visit
10 April 2023
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/487640/police-urge-rainbow-community-to-report-threats-violence-in-wake-of-posie-parker-visit

DEBUNKING INCOMING

Sean Plunket
Update: The Platform has obtained what the police really said. We will have full coverage of how this “fake” news story was created by @rnz_news tomorrow from 7am.
https://twitter.com/SeanPlunket/status/1645306922055397377

I don't know what day and time that will be in UK 🤷‍♀️

The Platform NZ
https://theplatform.kiwi/

Hope it will be on YouTube too:
https://www.youtube.com/@theplatformnz/videos

"They'll punch you in the face to show you how innocent they are".