Canada has its trans weight lifting policy shown up for the sham it is

It's already happened.

Caster Semenya, Francine Niyonsaba and Margaret Wambui, took all the medals in the women's 800m race at the Rio 2016 Olympics, despite all having XY chromosomes, internal testes and male levels of testosterone.

@sashh
I think you might be thinking of this:
Spanish basketball team who pretended to be disabled to win Paralympic gold.

"At one point during the first game of the tournament, when they were leading China by 30 points, Ribagorda claimed the coach told the players: 'Lads, move down a gear or they’ll figure out you’re not disabled.'"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-2459172/Spanish-basketball-team-pretended-disabled-win-Paralympic-gold-guilty-fraud.html

But of course no one would ever abuse self ID, that's different...........

Chicken.

Roost.

Try harder, ANNE.

Anne, the supposedly, yet is self-described as such, nice weightlift did post that video lamenting how women were just not trying hard enough.

Yet, is complaining that a woman who is a woman just as Anne is, smashed the record that Anne set being such an elite athletes that Anne is.

You actually could not have scripted it better. Yet, I do hope that Avi has a way to unset that record.

If Anne is so frustrated at the lack of competition then he could always go back to competing as a genuine man. There you go Anne, my “controversial thought “ for the day. Frankly my dear, it isn’t up to a man to tell women how they should be competing.

I think I would find Avi to be very nice indeed.

I also think he is not the one who exhibits malicious intent.

It genuinely beggars belief: https://thepostmillennial.com/watch-biological-male-record-holder-in-canadian-womens-powerlifting-complains-about-females-inability-to-lift-more-weight

I do wonder what would happen if women just stopped competing, let the men have it. A podium full of men at womens sporting competitions. It’s shit, women train for years for this stuff but if I was in competition I think I would willingly team up with other women to just not play. just to point out the utter stupidity of it.

What?
And Anne claims to "be nice"??

Anne transition 20 yrs ago and is fully transitioned* - according to Anne.

Just wondering about about

• age of competitors
• ability to substantially lengthen your competitive career
• weight you can lift as a ‘senior’ lifter

Parallels with the NZ lifter.

Avi - thank you. & don’t let anyone tell you you’re not beautiful!

I think that actually in that case the wheelchair doesn't just level the playing field but if anything gives the regular wheelchair users an advantage. Whereas I cant think of an equivalent for men/women

I think Avi might be nicer to the women, Anne, you know by maintaining a professional coaching role for 10 years and risking his reputation with this stunt.

So Anne goes to all these competitions and is all like "ooh I like your hair, yeah thanks, I did win by a lot didn't I, just my lucky day I guess, better luck next time, you tried really hard too bad" and thinks that is fine because it's nice. It doesn't seem nice to me. Nice would be recognising they had a huge unfair advantage beacause science whatever, and then doing something about it.

I am for this.

If men are going to take women's sport and records, then let's at least enjoy seeing the elite men identify in and take those medals as the best of the best. There's no difference whatsoever between their taking the medals and glory and any other male athlete doing so.

I disagree.

Women at school/ club level still deserve to be able to compete on a level playing field. They deserve to be safe in their sports (eg rugby). They deserve to have their achievements noted and celebrated. No woman should be pushed out of a team or shoved down the medal table because a male-bodied person with a biological advantage 'feels' like a woman.

Safety and fairness over inclusion every single time.

God, that's made me laugh! I like the idea of a bear IDing as human too! Funny how they are happy until something even more ludicrous happens?

Blimey. Fair play to Avi for taking this step.

I actually think it's going to take some wild, ridiculous acts like this to peak people into realising what's happening. Lia Thomas in the swimming made a lot of people sit up and take notice.

The unbelievable thing here is that the trans woman athlete Anne admits their own participation isn't fair but thinks because they're nice to others, they should be allowed to continue. So what about the biological women? They're probably nice to others but they don't get to win because of that pesky unfair advantage.....but that's OK because Anne is also really "nice", right?! Jesus fucking christ.

I also think the fact that Anne is now gatekeeping who is allowed to identify as a trans woman and therefore enter the competition pretty much sums up the entitled attitude of many TRAs. As long as they get to do whatever they want, fuck everyone else, especially the annoying biological women.

As a PP said, we've been told that anything other than total acceptance is transphobic - so by excluding trans women that haven't had the op, that means that you're now a TERF Anne. Oh dear.

So what if Anne considers himself nice? I bet the man who raped me has bought drinks for his friends because he is such a nice guy. What a fucking bizarre statement, and only one that a man would make (and believe)

Oi, careful there. A shark who identifies as a man (aka transman) is a man.

I just translate to 'pretendy' when the trans prefix is put before something real. Me saying I'm a butterfly is me identifying as a trans (pretendy) butterfly.

I think this could be dangerous

all that will happen is that there needs to be a f document of some sorts saying you identify as a woman. It would still allow biological males to compete in women’s categories

I sadly cannot see this change. Ever. It seems every young person thinks this is good, and most men don’t care as it does not affect them. (Avi is a rare guy) So the majority of people either do not care or think this is great.

womens sport is fucked 😞

Poor Anne

he's really suffered dreadful unfairness here

They should put a trans shark into the men’s swimming race