Anatomy of the Near Murder of Kellie-Jay Keen

This only works as an analogy if the sharks had turned up uninvited and insisted on swimming in KJKs hot tub/bath/garden pond.

The angry mob of violent men were the cause of the danger.

Absolutely, she jumped into the pool of sharks.

I think you are stuck in some of your old patterns of thinking, Sappho.

@Coyoacan I'm open to having my mind changed, that's why I tend to post on the KJK threads. It's not taking a pop at her it's inviting people to prove me wrong if I'm wrong.

@SapphosRock

I remember you from when you were a TRA. Then you changed your mind and became GC, which I thought was really admirable. Very few people are capable of publicly changing their minds. But it look like you only became GC to have a chance to take pops at KJK from a different angle.

Of course not, it's the TRAs potentially throwing eggs at the women and becoming violent which is a concern.

It's not something I would joke about.

I'm comparing it to what happened to Sarah Everard, and later to the women at the vigil for her, and the hands of the police.

They hate women so much. Women should not be seen except under male escort, women should never be heard, women should not congregate in groups. Hooray for the TRA Taliban.

It’s hard to believe anyone would think the women who can be seen attending Speakers Corner would have any inclination even to think of throwing, or bothering to throw, anything at the TRA’s, or that it would be a good idea. 🙄

she put herself in danger

she put herself in danger

she put herself in danger

by being in a space she shouldn't have been in

by wearing clothes that attracted the wrong sort of attention

by drawing attention to herself

by having a physical body

by being noticed by men

by having a sense of self that didn't depend on a man's approval

and worst of all, by speaking up for herself and other women

Men's violence, individually or in a mob, is never a woman's fault. The men do it, the men own it.

Inability to take any kind of responsibility for self is a key feature of this entirely political movement.

"Make me happy, KEEP me happy, do exactly what I say and dare not to provoke me or I'll make you sorry (and possibly break your skull)" is the chant of a severely disturbed child, not a progressive liberal movement.

Even though I hate the way certain feminists love to hate KJK and spread these lies about her, I don’t place the blame much with them.

KJK she is both female and she does not strive to please or be accepted. She thinks for herself, she speaks her mind and won’t be cowed.

Its a recipe for trouble in a misogynistic world.

The Mob of course are completely blameless. The Mob aren't a collection of people who have control over their actions.

she literally can't do anything right

I genuinely think that there is nothing she could say that would not be met with a bad faith interpretation

she's too different

Sappho and her chums just can't handle a woman that different from them

We could just copy and paste some relevant bits from Julian’s article?

Or our own comments from the last eleventy-billion threads?

I need a new pot, kettle, idiom!

This one needs something about: twitter comments, malicious rumour spreading ‘actual feminists’ and a defiant, plucky, Women’s Rights Campaigner talking about her own lived experience in a humorous way…

can I be arsed to get involved in what will doubtless be a boring and repetitive discussion with many bad faith takes on the part of the frankly unhinged socialist feminists?

that's the question I'm forced to ask myself this afternoon

No one would predict that the police would hand the women over to be mauled by the mob.

Who would take police dereliction of duty into consideration as a risk factor?

Have no idea what this doxxing thing is about btw but if it's true then outraged on KJK's behalf.

Our vicar said almost the same thing yesterday "...and do feel free to bring your eggs with you!" when he mentioned next Sunday's services. Is he grossly irresponsible, too?

Had your vicar recently held an event where he and other people had recently been pelted with eggs? And where women had been violently assaulted? If so then, yes your Vicar is grossly irresponsible.

Thanks for the link.

As I remember it, Julie Bindel didn't simply claim that KJK had Tommy Robinson as her avatar, she asked on Twitter (while KJK was banned so couldn't defend herself) whether anyone had seen such an avatar. Of course no-one had, but equally it could never be disproved either. I don't know whether she ever took the tweet down. I really admire JB and, even when I'm pissed off with her, she always ends up making me laugh, but I lost a lot of respect for her after that.

Fucking hell.

Doxing a mother of four certainly doesn’t sound very feminist.

Much worse than a pun about Easter Sunday, large immobile gametes, and the trope of throwing eggs at political opponent.

I'm disgusted with both Julie Bindel (whose work for women I admire) and the Socfems, whom now I frankly despise.
Kellie-Jay is a true Bodicea, a heroine fighting for ALL women and putting herself out there.

Don't be ridiculous!

Someone says "Bring your eggs" to an event held on Easter Sunday and that is your interpretation?

You must have sat up all night to come up with that one!

Our vicar said almost the same thing yesterday "...and do feel free to bring your eggs with you!" when he mentioned next Sunday's services. Is he grossly irresponsible, too?

I have respect for the work JB has done but not for the individual. KJK isn't the only woman to be bullied and smeared by this tiny group of socfems.

JB earned a fee for a column in a newspaper with a known right wing bias by forced teaming with a woman she called a 'pound shop Eva Braun'. She has homeopathic levels of integrity.

SapphosRock give it a rest. Your soc fem mates have recently published personal info, about KJK, on line which is tantamount to doxing, KJK's children have been threatened, they should be fucking ashamed of themselves. That is dangerous and irresponsible.

‘Im with Billy Bragg’

Do you know , Mishy, that’s the least surprising thing I’ve seen all day, and I’ve just been out to give the pigeons their breakfast toast.