escalating violence

Doesn’t NZ have the 3rd largest rate of DV in the world? And that includes countries like Afghanistan and Iran where women have hardly any rights? No wonder these males thought it was ok to beat up women, it seems to be the whole country’s attitude to women

Obviously Lidia Thorpe wasn't really attacked. Security and police were just doing their job.

The rhetoric is "punch TERFs". There is no equivalent rhetoric of "punch trans-activists" on the GC side.

We know which side talks about using violence. We know which side is "no debate". And we know which side is crossing the line to actually attack people.

What Jordan Peterson said.

Lidia Thorpe didn't want the event to happen in the first place. She was on the side of censorship.

But quite possibly she would have been allowed to speak at the event had she wanted to. She didn't want to. She wanted to try to disrupt it instead.

You don't have a right to disrupt someone else's event. You also don't have a right to speak at someone else's event. That comes down to the decision of the event organisers. KJK can't just turn up and speak at trans activist events, so even if she did limit who could speak at her own event, it wouldn't be a big deal.

What does Lidia Thorpe talk about that gets suppressed anyway? Is anyone stopping her from speaking out on certain issues?

If you think that there should be an event where both sides on the trans-activism issue get to debate each other, I think that's a great idea, but I'm pretty sure the trans-activists often wouldn't want that. They are too cowardly or intellectually dishonest to want open debate.

KJK gets a mention.

I think it's interesting that even the lgb community is now going 'err, we don't want to be associated with this shit #lbgwithoutT

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11927577/Hours-Nashville-massacre-radical-activists-exploited-horror-push-extreme-ideology.html

The last paragraph isn't too heartening.

It's sheer desperation. No-one is playing the game anymore. No debate no longer works, no platforming no longer works so they're reduced to increasing violence to shut women up. This period in history is going to be studied in the future as an example of safeguarding being thrown out the window to allow narcissism free reign.

It's escalating violence because they are being confronted with adults calmly saying the truth, that TWAM - having a temper tantrum is all they have - they have no reasoned arguments, only feelings. Just a bunch of big toddlers with blue hair.

In my experience of actually living in Australia (not just random opinion) it’s a very macho anti- woman culture. There’s a reason that some remarkable feminists are from Australia.

I'm honestly getting tired of the same TRA all over this forum entering a thread with wild accusations and claims that they never can back up. All you are doing is proving us right. You have no arguments, facts are not on your side and you are completely disrespectful, misogynistic and intolerant.

Receipts or gtfo.

It's not about trans people imho.
It's about trans activists and the ever more aggressive notion that biological sex is completely irrelevant despite the fact you cannot change your entire skeletal structure no matter how much outward surgery you have.

I get where you're trying to come from to an extent, but words are not literal physical violence - and those of us who have concerns about private spaces such as changing rooms, sports, etc, should be allowed to voice our concerns without being silenced, called a hateful bigot for talking about our lived experiences.

Everyone gets a "lived experience" except for women with gender critical views it seems :s

I've been punched by a man, I've seen domestic abuse from men, I've seen drunk women fighting vs drunk men fighting, we've seen time and time again professional women's sports teams taking on teenage boys, and losing.

And we can't talk about that because it might hurt someone's feeling's?
Surely it erases trans people to suggest there are no differences between the sexes, because if that's the case why bother transitioning to begin with?
There's no difference, right?

I'm not sure it's that simple.

I do think that the situation in places like NZ and Canada is really different. Gender ideology and id politics are winning, and there is very little public resistance - many people who disagree are still much too scared to do so publicly and all institutions are captured, 99.9% of the media are captured.

Most people will not even know what this guy is talking about. They still think that being trans in a kind of intersex condition in the brain.

Yes. I sincerely believe a lot of these people are radicalised and should be on some kind of 'Prevent' programme. Instead they're treated as 'special' by politicians and the police. It really worries me, they are radicalised by an ideology and people in power can't see it and cheer them on. I can't really think on another example where that's happened to this extent.

Sorry to disappoint, I haven't had any alcohol since last summer, I am not into alcohol, I am however very tired in every way one can be.

Maybe someone is projecting 🍷 ?

The do desire the arrests of groomers and incompetent people we fund as taxpayers to safeguard.

Lidia Thorpe of lets lie down in front of a pride float fame ran at PP from behind and security stopped her. What was her intention? Was it to intimidate, threaten attack - in that situation know one knows. I gather security tried to help her up but she would rather make a spectacle of herself crawling across the grass in her hiking heels. If she had waited in turn she could have asked to speak. That’s what the other women do. Lidia is a woman yes but she’s not that special that she can push her way in.

Ah, crack 72 year old's skull first, ask questions later.

In vino veritas

They are going to get worse, they are going to be barred from certain professions and imprisoned by the Home Secretary.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11928625/Suella-Braverman-vows-stamp-grooming-gangs-organised-child-sex-abuse.html

Ah, women "provoke" men with our words. If we'd just stop talking, the poor little oppressed men wouldn't need to batter us.

Keep making your shitty excuses.

Women have had years of provocation (to put it mildly) from anti-woman activists. They've assaulted us, threatened to rape and kill us, tracked down our children's schools with threats to hurt them, they've unlawfully discriminated against us, and on and on.

Yet women have managed to keep our hands to ourselves. We've never turned up to a trans event and cracked a trans persons skull or broken their bones.

The posters that keep popping up to victim blame should go and spew their MVAWG-condoning bullshit on the incel and MRA type subs on Reddit, you'll fit right in there.

I think people are allowed to disagree with Lidia Thorpe and lots of people do.

Just because she is a woman, doesn't mean she's right all the time.

I was at LWS in Glasgow so I know what was spoken about. Womens prisons, womens safety, girls toilets in schools, domestic abuse, the police, our elected politicians and more. It was a wonderful event attended by passionate, articulate women of all ages and diverse social backgrounds. I've never seen or heard a tra engage on a single thing that was spoken about. All they have is drowning our voices out.

When an anti-trans event is planned,

What were they talking about? Or intending to talk about?

Two separate posts from Merlin not even 15 minutes apart. Firstly absolute resolute it was an anti-trans event, but also no idea what the content was. This is dizzy heights of square pegs and round holes.

@MerlinsLostMarbles sorry to double post but are you claiming the sane police you were applauding earlier in the thread were attacking the gender ideologists? For any reason, or do the NZ/Aus police just hate all women indiscriminately?

I can’t wait to hear @MerlinsLostMarbles explanation as to why antifa attacked women and not actual Nazis. And to see the proof of the violence by the women.