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Keir Starmer - Trans Rights Can't Override Women's Rights

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chevvyroo · 01/04/2023 18:42

In The Times

Seems like he's done a strategic U turn. I bet at least he's glad he can stop dodging the "what is a woman?" question.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/6841074a-d0a9-11ed-85a8-caaa67d15364?shareToken=2360ce9b239c4fae805bc8364adaea73

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BernardBlacksMolluscs · 03/04/2023 16:28

I know for a fact that a lot of ex forces men are raging about it and planning something for the summer, so good luck Keir trying to sweep this under the rug.

this sounds like men planning violence

just for the hard of thinking, that would be a bad thing

this thread has taken quite the surreal turn

LidlChocolate · 03/04/2023 16:17

Alltheprettyseahorses · 03/04/2023 15:37

Colour me shocked, he's a liar and a fool. I wonder what all those who pleaded with us to vote Labour, it'll all be sorted, are thinking now? Are they embarrassed? Saying that, the new round of shills are on social media listing all the things more important than women. We are just an exasperation after all. Which is so damned dismissive and patronising, half the people he would be accountable to are an exasperation, we should probably shut up, grovel to his proclamations and do as we're told. We just don't count in Starmer's world - support animals, not people.

Support animals, breeding babies ready for the indoctrination centres to pimp out the children to staff and perverted teen boys.

Support animals to look after AGP staff and patients when coming out of a general anesthetic, first thought where am I, secons thoughthave NHS staff pimped me out, third thought how the heck can I get myself well quick to avoid AGPs access.

Support animals to shut the fuck up.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 03/04/2023 15:37

Colour me shocked, he's a liar and a fool. I wonder what all those who pleaded with us to vote Labour, it'll all be sorted, are thinking now? Are they embarrassed? Saying that, the new round of shills are on social media listing all the things more important than women. We are just an exasperation after all. Which is so damned dismissive and patronising, half the people he would be accountable to are an exasperation, we should probably shut up, grovel to his proclamations and do as we're told. We just don't count in Starmer's world - support animals, not people.

Puffinpanic · 03/04/2023 15:17

LidlChocolate · 03/04/2023 08:22

https://mobile.twitter.com/rosey_nz/status/1642753873151680514/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1642753873151680514&currentTweetUser=rosey_nz
Hipkins the New Zealand PM was asked about shorty, ancient, backwards, trying to be diwn with the kids- Starmers definition and he was at first lost for words and secondly from his response seems to view Starmer as a pervy bigoted TERF 😆

I’m sorry, but that just gave me the rage. When asked ‘what is a woman’ he stumbles that he wasn’t expecting that question, and it’s left field’, but his governing party, that he leads, has implemented policies over-riding sex, and hence what a woman is, so how dare he not have even thought of this? The fucker. Women, not even fucking worth thinking about when implementing laws and policies that directly affect us as women. How dare he? How dare he claim he is not a fucking misogynist!

LidlChocolate · 03/04/2023 14:50

I have seen one in particular on YouTube training people, he went into detail online showing people various tactics he learned from being in the army for them to go gurella tactics over a few issues and this was one. I watched for another reason and tuned in to him teaching tactics I was agog.

All these working class men were talking about it despite what Keir says, all very well informed and angry about this issue.

Good luck to the woke this summer.

LidlChocolate · 03/04/2023 14:40

My children are adults.

If they were being taught by someone at school how to mastrubate, I would be raging.

There ard a lot if angry people around.

As I say my children aren't in school these enablers and abusers who are abusing the nations children and Mr Gaslighting Starmer pretending nobody is thinking or taking about it.

And Teachers and NHS enablers pimpimg out patients and student's acting like DARVO victims, crack on we see it.

I know for a fact that a lot of ex forces men are raging about it and planning something for the summer, so good luck Keir trying to sweep this under the rug.

LidlChocolate · 03/04/2023 14:28

Brain blow by a woman speaking, by a domesticated zombie, uneducated, who doesn't matter? Wrong think, the wrong world view, the wrong conclusions, a Karen, A Gammon, a bigot, a stupid idiot who votes wrong, heard it all before.

Only women with the correct language and ideas can speak!?

That's my world view, they are my opinions, I am allowed to change them, and likely will again in life, at this time now that is where I stand and I am not voting for or supporting crappie isologies I don't agree with, that harm me and vulnerable people.

I don't care about sacred castes, even if they ate elite grad women with irrational luxury beliefs, they aren't above criticism.

Don't say anything, you don't want the neighbours to know or... that's what the state 'Mother' does as she pimps out her patients via Annexe B, no difference to the enabling mother that has a violent man in the home and as long as he is hitting the children not her she can tolerate staying, she won't leave as she doesn't want to lose her home, status and income. A pair of peas in a pod.

SinnerBoy · 03/04/2023 13:15

LidlChocolate · Today 12:59

Bernie was employing the tactic known as "Grim Irony."

hamstersarse · 03/04/2023 13:10

And I truly believe the vast majority of female voters will give him the benefit of the doubt.

It is a dangerous tactic on his behalf. This sort of issue can truly make an election a single issue voting strategy for many people. I think it is a huge gamble to think that 51% of the population will just 'give him the benefit of the doubt' on this issue.

ResisterRex · 03/04/2023 13:09

Thanks Bernard. Have a cuppa Brew

PronounssheRa · 03/04/2023 13:09

ResisterRex · 03/04/2023 13:06

What the fuck has happened to this thread?! Shock

🤯

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 03/04/2023 13:07

hands Resister a tin foil hat

it seems to be the head wear du jour in the thread at the moment

I'm hoping it will pass

ResisterRex · 03/04/2023 13:06

What the fuck has happened to this thread?! Shock

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 03/04/2023 13:05

(I'm not convinced I'm the one showing narcissistic tendencies, but you carry on)

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 03/04/2023 13:04

LidlChocolate · 03/04/2023 12:59

Women are not above being scolded by the ones they harm with their greed, selfishness, irrational luxury beliefs.

They leave the most vulnerable to suffer and we are not allowed to complain?

Are you the type that trolls Henrietta on Twitter because she doesn't want an AGP to wash her fanny?

How dare vulnerable women like her or me call out the equalivilant of abusive enabling state mothers who are no different to an abuse enabling mother in the home, eh?

I predicted to my children my posts would bring narc rage, always does when you speak the truth.

you're scolding all women?

right you are

LidlChocolate · 03/04/2023 12:59

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 03/04/2023 12:54

it's always what women do that's the problem innit? funny that

Women are not above being scolded by the ones they harm with their greed, selfishness, irrational luxury beliefs.

They leave the most vulnerable to suffer and we are not allowed to complain?

Are you the type that trolls Henrietta on Twitter because she doesn't want an AGP to wash her fanny?

How dare vulnerable women like her or me call out the equalivilant of abusive enabling state mothers who are no different to an abuse enabling mother in the home, eh?

I predicted to my children my posts would bring narc rage, always does when you speak the truth.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 03/04/2023 12:54

it's always what women do that's the problem innit? funny that

LidlChocolate · 03/04/2023 12:51

https://www.rte.ie/news/2023/0403/1367841-agsi-conference/

Taking mothers out of the home (women always worked in farms prior to the industrial revolution which was in the home with family) under the oppressive man and putting her into the opressive workforce (As Matthew Goodwin said on Triggernometry- described full of polital reminders - of who is in charge) took the children into the situation we are now in.

Having women in the workplace and in leadership resulted in the new boss the same as the old boss - psychopaths.

Note all those mostly female NHS and school strikes were not to stop them pimping out children at work via Haytons document for schools and they didn't strike to stop pimping out females on wards under Annexe B.

These are the professionals who expect a woman to become homeless and to go into poverty to safeguard their children from an abusive man in the home, yet they cry DARVO if they are expected to in the workplace, the double standards for the elite graduate as Matthew calls them, is quite the exercise is cognitive dissonance and narcissism.

Rosters and gender identity directive on AGSI agenda

The AGSI has called on the Garda Commissioner to withdraw a directive to members of the gardaí on gender identity in the workplace and adhere to the established industrial relations process for the garda roster.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2023/0403/1367841-agsi-conference

LidlChocolate · 03/04/2023 12:18

NotHavingIt · 03/04/2023 12:03

Because it is the natural end point of the kind of feminism that suggests there are no differences between men and women - the sort of 'equality' arguments that most young people have been brought up with; along with the contemporary movement towards transhumanism and the attempt, once again, to liberate humankind from the limits of the body and the facts of life on earth ( Mother Nature is female). A perfect storm.

As KJK has said feminists never dealt with Mother.

The young women who will end up childless and alone are the product of mothers putting their poor me rainbow colleagues, their love of money and status first instead of being a mother they don't value it. (I know not every old person isn't in cognitive decline, not all men or trans are like that, I am not talking about single mothers who have no financial support).

They are the product of being rewarded and taught to be parrots at school, to value memory recall and linguistic skills above all else and dismiss, devalue, not help develop in others who have other skills.

They are the product of a society that supports affairs and second families like Boris/Carrie Johnson erasing the first family from history, devalued and punished for the bad behaviour of others who are supported it.

We live in a world where bad is good and rewarded and good is bad and punished.

I could go on, I have things to do.

Laladybird · 03/04/2023 12:06

Focus groups made up of Laydees called Beth and Aimee, claiming to speak for women. With not an actual woman in sight.

LidlChocolate · 03/04/2023 12:05

Shelefttheweb · 03/04/2023 12:00

LidlChocolate it your theory were to make sense then why is it the young who have principally fallen for this claptrap? Including younger world leaders?

You want to watch Triggernometry and the interview with Matthew yesterday, he has all the answers.

Those woke young women will end up alone and childless in old age. There is a reason criminals target OAPs.

NotHavingIt · 03/04/2023 12:04

LidlChocolate · 03/04/2023 12:03

I was referring to starmer.

If Stamer can't see the self ID trap or is too scared of Angela Rayner and AGPs, how can he fight a war with Xi or make trade deals?

A Starmer governments will be government by a panel of technocrats and focus groups.

LidlChocolate · 03/04/2023 12:03

Shelefttheweb · 03/04/2023 12:00

LidlChocolate it your theory were to make sense then why is it the young who have principally fallen for this claptrap? Including younger world leaders?

I was referring to starmer.

If Stamer can't see the self ID trap or is too scared of Angela Rayner and AGPs, how can he fight a war with Xi or make trade deals?

NotHavingIt · 03/04/2023 12:03

Shelefttheweb · 03/04/2023 12:00

LidlChocolate it your theory were to make sense then why is it the young who have principally fallen for this claptrap? Including younger world leaders?

Because it is the natural end point of the kind of feminism that suggests there are no differences between men and women - the sort of 'equality' arguments that most young people have been brought up with; along with the contemporary movement towards transhumanism and the attempt, once again, to liberate humankind from the limits of the body and the facts of life on earth ( Mother Nature is female). A perfect storm.

Shelefttheweb · 03/04/2023 12:00

LidlChocolate it your theory were to make sense then why is it the young who have principally fallen for this claptrap? Including younger world leaders?