Keir Starmer - Trans Rights Can't Override Women's Rights

This. Yesterday Labour was committing to 'modernising' the GRA, today Keir is wiffling. He's bloody full of it.
I wouldn't trust him to sit the right way on a toilet seat.

It went online at 6pm. Two hours later there are 336 comments over at the Times. The top 5 rated:

"For 100% of women it is biological."
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"Mealy mouthed obfuscation. Notice how he said 99.9% - allowing him to include the 0.1% of trans in the women category. No, Keir - 100% of women are biological females. Biological sex matters. I cannot stand the Tories right now, but I will NEVER vote Labour as long as there is the slightest chance they trade my rights away."
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"Nope Starmer, 0.1% of women do not have a pen is
He is changing his messaging because he has seen the polling data & the outcry from Scotland not because he has done any critical thinking on the issue. He & his party have treated Rosie Duffield appallingly. He visited Kent today but didn’t bother to contact Rosie - his only MP in Kent"
99

"So when is the labour party cutting its links with Stonewall?"
88

"If Starmer equivocate on this in any way he’ll be binned the way Sturgeon was. She jumped before she was pushed by women who understand that men can’t become women and that brainwashing and medicalising confused children is abhorrent."
67

He thinks women are stupid. He can go away and think again. I'm not voting Labour till he apologises to Rosie, and women and pledges to repeal the GRA. Imagine schools under Labour.

Oh god sorry everyone I accidentally posted in wrong thread instead of starting a new one ...ignore ignore ignore. Sorry !!!!!.😳

He is saying the 99.9%of women that are biological women don’t have penises and the rest do.

Really? Still saying this

What an utter twonk

I'm with you all: it's that 99.9% that stands out for me. And his ignoring of Rosie Duffield. I don't believe a weaselly word that he says. Women have brains and can join the dots, Kier...

Slightly smarter picking of a quote for LWD but the replies and stats don't tell a much different story to WPUK:

twitter.com/labwomendec/status/1642225800446459907?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

Oh god. They think it’s a change of tune? 🤦🏾‍♀️

WPUK seem impressed:

https://twitter.com/womansplaceeuk/status/1642234148478763008?s=46&t=WHoOZ3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

(Time stamp 19:35)

But at 526 views, resulting in just 5likes and 2 retweets, they might wanna read the room.

He is saying the 99.9%of women that are biological women don’t have penises and the rest do.
I am absolutely apoplectic with rage about this. The deliberate fudging of his words to try and slither under the radar because he thinks we women are so idiotic we won’t understand is so UTTERLY OFFENSIVE I don’t even know where to start.

i saw these meme today and I liked it. Get in the fucking bin Kier

So this 0.1% - which, from the article, appears to be transwomen - are women? And yet, when a vanishingly small number of transwomen have surgery to remove their penises, apparently women don’t have penises. Sorry Keir, that doesn’t add up and it sounds like one big fudge to me.

Either you think woman = adult human biological female or you don’t, you can’t have it both ways. And no matter what right noises Starmer may or may not make, there’s plenty in his party who are still firmly aboard the TRA bandwagon.

So those 48,000 women with a penis? They just get lumped in with us and we just get to shove over, beeeeee kind.

I bet you that will be his reasoning. There are so few, you are vanishingly unlikely to meet one. Never mind every Tom, dick and harry also wanting in to our spaces as has been proved time and again. I'm taking bets too on him saying, you can always call the police.

That's 48k now, how many more in a year, 2 years?

When half of men decide they are a woman, will it be a problem then?

My main issue is once we have lost our single sex spaces, it'll be one hell of a battle to get them back. We think its difficult now trying to make people see the issues, I'm not sure I'm up for the fight to claim them back when laws have been changed and even more people are against us.

Massive eye roll.

It was only yesterday Labour put out a tweet saying that they are going to update the GRA (which can only mean self ID).

He's always coming out with the "for 99% of women" line. But isn't that just another way of saying that for the other "women" it's a matter of identity and they do have a penis. He's just being evasive and hoping that we won't notice.

This isn't new, he's said the 99.9% thing before. He clearly thinks it's a really clever way to answer the question, and that we're too stupid to notice that he's still saying that transwomen are women. What a fucker.

0.01% of women have a penis? Ahahahahah! No. Guck. All. The. Way. Off!

I will dpoil my ballot before I vote for a party "led" by a man who pretends he doesn't know what a woman is in other to satisfy a tiny cohort of religious zealots.

Well yesterday the Labour Party was committing to “trans rights” and “modernising the GRA” and today he went to Kent and didn’t tell his only Labour MP in the county (Rosie Duffield) that he was going. He’s a lying, duplicitous weasel.

He does actually think we’re stupid doesn’t he? So he thinks women can have a penis. He also pretends that implementing self ID won’t ‘roll back women’s rights’ when it absolutely conflicts with them. His position hasn’t changed. He hasn’t learnt from Scotland. He can get stuffed.

And guess what the stats are from the ONS census?

48,000 (0.10%) identified as a trans woman

Boom! There's your other 0.1% for whom he thinks isn't biological.

He thinks he's so fucking clever and women are stupid. Piss off you lying arsehole

The thing is I don't trust him at all. I fully think he could say all of this now aka its not a priority, womens rights shouldn't be overridden and then as soon as he steps foot over the threshold of number 10 he does another volte face.

I want to hear if the rest of the Labour party shadow ministers have also changed their positions or are women still rights hoarding dinosaurs?

Yeah. Nothing new to see.

When he means that those ‘women’ with penises are included in the ‘women’s’ rights that trans rights should not ‘override’ his statement is meaningless and circular.

No thank you.

Cross posted with @FannyCann

We see you Kier! 👀

Isn’t he he just fudging it there? What he is strategically NOT saying is that 0.01 of women aren’t biological women and they do have penises.

He said nothing new to me. He hasn’t changed their position at all. He hadn’t withdrawn the plan to bring in self ID has he? Then no, not getting my vote.

He's convinced this 99.9% argument is enough. He's a clown.