No nudity in changing rooms or no penises in the ladies?

I could not agree more

Target! great place for trackie dacks too!

@Helleofabore I know. I”ll take my Target towel.

Yikes. The price !

@Helleofabore and of course, https://eu.dryrobe.com/ isn’t a thing here either. I do see blokes changing their jocks under a towel in the carpark but that’s as far as it goes.

I just posted something similar on the other thread about this.

In fact, most of my beach experience is standing in my togs and thongs under an open air shower and then ducking off to a concrete brick single sex changing 'shed' with a wooden slat bench seat for you to get dressed if you want to leave the beach in clothes rather than your togs.

If there is a shower in the communal changing 'shed', it is not in a closable cubicle and as you say, rarely with a curtain.

A pool may be different as it might have a curtain but anywhere that involves swimming will have toilets with sopping wet floors and the changing room will be wet too. Maybe if you are lucky the changing area will have black rubber holey matting.

Changing 'under a towel' is a ridiculous suggestion for an adult to do. Absolutely ridiculous.

Just to say that here in Aus, I have yet to go into a changeroom at the beach or anywhere else that has cubicles. We have showers which may or may not have a curtain to keep your stuff dry, toilets and an open space with a few hooks. As The article is talking about a surf lifesaving club, there will likely be lockers somewhere but not necessarily in the changeroom.

You are welcome to get your kit off when, where and with whomever you like at any time. Enjoy yourself.

Leave everyone else to make their own decisions and respect that they get to set their own boundaries, and we'll all be fine. Inclusion is all that's being asked for, and that requires some space retained for female only. This should not be predicated on male permission or agreement, or whether males drum their heels and sob, or threaten to hurt people.

We all have a body and this amount of horror at the thought of seeing one is, in my opinion, ridiculous

Your opinion on this leaves no room for people who are just generally shy though. My own mother and sister are comfortable with nudity having grown up in a house where nudity was just a normal part of life/all bodies the same/beautiful etc.

Doesn't change the fact that I'd rather sVe my naked body for myself and my husband. I change in front of my small dc and make no adjustments to cover myself up, as I appreciate its sensible to normalise nakedness but I am not ridiculous for not wanting to get changed in a open facility for women to undress and redress around one another.

I have no problem with fully open changing rooms, but accept that most people have.

That would be lovely in an ideal world.

Unfortunately it's not an ideal world. It's a patriarchal and increasingly pornified one.

An awful lot of men in particular have nefarious reasons for wanting to be in places where women and children are naked.

It's the 'men get scary when you try to talk to them about women having needs too, so all loos are gender neutral so we don't have to deal with them' solution.

It fucks over women, while protecting staff from having to set boundaries with potentially large, angry, unstable men.

We all have a body and this amount of horror at the thought of seeing one is, in my opinion, ridiculous. I grew up in a household where seeing my family (including my dad) naked was no big deal. When I had my own children we were members of a naturist club and would spend weekends in summer there. They grew up seeing the naked body in all its shapes and forms, all ages and by no means all "beautiful". Consequently, they have grown up with no "body hang ups" and are confident in their own appearance. They have not grown up in a situation where the only naked bodies they saw were in air brushed or porn photos, which would make then lack confidence in their own normal bodies!

Looking at their website it looks like they do and they are called single sex as well. No sneaky gender in there.
Over 16's only

I totally agree with this. I'm opposed to men in women's changing rooms but seeing the full range of women's bodies is important to young girls, IMO.

The story runs "..the club says its policy is designed to protect children, and they had received complaints about nudity." The CEO says that the club "received complaints from some junior members about being intimidated and uncomfortable."

The CEO also points out that a third of the members under 14.

The rule only came in 3 months previously.

I wonder what happened before then to spark complaints, which presumably hadn't been received in the however many years prior to that.

It is possible, if Nada Pantle actually is a woman (and there is no way of knowing what sex a person actually is from coverage in the Australian media) that she is not aware of any events or behaviour that have given rise to complaints.

She was disciplined because she had ignored the rule about no nudity.

Do they still have single sex sessions at all, @Beamur ?

I've been following the rule changes at the (very lovely) Turkish Baths in Harrogate.
They used to run sessions that allowed people to be naked in the spa (single sex).
Consulted on changes to change the single sex sessions (very unpopular) in the guise of inclusion..
They've now done away completely with the naked sessions and have very clear rules around appropriate clothing.
I don't know the details but I think that the clothing rules were brought in because of inappropriate behaviour.
It seems to be happening in these kinds of places especially - shared/intimate places where undress is happening, the well established social rules are being flouted which results in more Draconian rules and loss of freedom's for all.

Seeing normal women’s bodies in changing rooms and the range of difference was enormously helpful to me as an adolescent. It acted as a counterbalance to all the airbrushed sylph-like waifs in magazines and on TV. What exactly is the problem here?

There aren't always enough cubicles. At my local Bannatynes it's mostly open plan changing with about 3 cubicles. If all the cubicles are occupied I'll just get changed at the benches, I'm not precious about other females seeing me naked briefly, it's not like I'm parading around and going to use the hairdryers naked (which I've seen someone do on one occasion and was a bit WTF).