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Shot putter Amelia Strickler "It's not exclusion, it's just preserving fairness"

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BigFrau · 31/03/2023 09:48

This morning, Radio 4 news programme Today featured a short interview with shot putter Amelia Strickler on World Athletics' decision to keep women's sports for women.

It's a great interview. Strickler is articulate, clear and unwavering in her belief that women's sports are for women. She covers everything (albeit briefly) from the Olympics to parkrun.

I liked the bit where she said "I wish these companies [big sports brand sponsors] would back their female athletes".

I also loved the fact she used the terms "biological males" and "trans identifying males" throughout.

She is just ace. Give it a listen - it'll cheer you up on this drizzly morning and I guarantee you'll say "yesssss!!" out loud at least twice.

Fast forward to about 2:27:40 (the interview was about half an hour from the end of the programme).
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001kgzs

Today - 31/03/2023 - BBC Sounds

News and current affairs, including Sports Desk, Weather and Thought for the Day.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001kgzs

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PaleBlueMoonlight · 31/03/2023 20:50

She was quite brilliant.

piedbeauty · 31/03/2023 20:17

Brilliant - love Amelia!

Sandwidged · 31/03/2023 20:13

Excellent piece

artant · 31/03/2023 19:50

letterwritingwarrior · 31/03/2023 17:24

Is there a non complaint email address we can use to thank the BBC for this interview?

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There’s Radio 4’s Feedback programme: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/1WbP92b6YbpP9j4mwwbtc9Q/contact-us

BBC Radio 4 - Feedback - Contact us

Contact Feedback

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/1WbP92b6YbpP9j4mwwbtc9Q/contact-us

WarningToTheCurious · 31/03/2023 19:26

Dunno @Farmageddon

You could directly email R4 Today: [email protected]

KatMcBundleFace · 31/03/2023 18:00

It wasn't one sided. The presenter made pains to talk about the debate being:
Biology verses gender
And
Inclusion verses fairness

Its not women's fault that the other side has such rubbish arguments.

It's the final day of women's history month, so good to see a focus on women!

letterwritingwarrior · 31/03/2023 17:24

WarningToTheCurious · 31/03/2023 13:47

Apparently it was “transphobic” and everyone should complain to the BBC.

They were particularly triggered because today is yet another Special Day for the Special People (International Day of Trans Visibility?).

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Is there a non complaint email address we can use to thank the BBC for this interview?

Farmageddon · 31/03/2023 17:05

WarningToTheCurious · 31/03/2023 13:47

Apparently it was “transphobic” and everyone should complain to the BBC.

They were particularly triggered because today is yet another Special Day for the Special People (International Day of Trans Visibility?).

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FFS really? Another 'day of transsomething...' there seems to have been about 4 of these already this year.

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BigFrau · 31/03/2023 16:38

Ozanne is clearly not that fekkin "speechless".... unfortunately

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Birdsweepsin · 31/03/2023 16:34

If Ozanne is so cross about it being on TDoV perhaps there shouldn't be so many special hooplalas... idahobit, tdor, gender fluid pride, pronouns day etc etc etc. It can be really hard to get a non-trans slot.

Theredjellybean · 31/03/2023 15:30

I literally cheered while listening.
She was so good , so clear an loved that she used correct terminology...cannot be accused of not being inclusive...when you say biologically female or male .
She deserves all our support.

EndlessTea · 31/03/2023 15:25

I've never been interested in the shot put until today 😂But I'll be following her sports career now.
I think she's brilliant. She's up there with Sharron Davies for me.

I’m so pleased she isn’t retired, like most athletes speaking up - so I have someone to watch and root for!

nilsmousehammer · 31/03/2023 13:52

If women talking and women's rights are transphobic then the trans-focused values being argued for are not compatible with equality or fit for a modern society. Can't have it both ways.

lordloveadog · 31/03/2023 13:51

Thank you for posting this. She was wonderful.

WarningToTheCurious · 31/03/2023 13:49

Of course, TRAs wanting to silence women‘s voices wouldn’t be at all misogynistic, would it?

WarningToTheCurious · 31/03/2023 13:47

HagoftheNorth · 31/03/2023 13:04

I caught the last bit of the interview - v impressive. Is there a pushback on Twitter? I can’t imagine how you can construct an argument against this, but coherent arguments aren’t always the currency Twitter deals in I suppose! What’s being said?

Apparently it was “transphobic” and everyone should complain to the BBC.

They were particularly triggered because today is yet another Special Day for the Special People (International Day of Trans Visibility?).

Shot putter Amelia Strickler "It's not exclusion, it's just preserving fairness"
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BigFrau · 31/03/2023 13:27

Another interview with Amelia (by Piers Morgan) here:

I've never been interested in the shot put until today 😂But I'll be following her sports career now.
I think she's brilliant. She's up there with Sharron Davies for me.

"Keep Women's Sport FAIR!" Shot Putter On Transgender Athletes In Women's Sports

Piers Morgan Uncensored is joined by British shot put champion Amelia Strickler after she wrote an article highlighting the difficulties biological women hav...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFGyjbmVON4

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HagoftheNorth · 31/03/2023 13:04

I caught the last bit of the interview - v impressive. Is there a pushback on Twitter? I can’t imagine how you can construct an argument against this, but coherent arguments aren’t always the currency Twitter deals in I suppose! What’s being said?

Slave2thekitty · 31/03/2023 12:41

I was listening to her interview this morning and punching the air in happiness with every, solid point she raised. I hope there is now a huge wave of sports women at every level speaking out & pushing back.
By the way - Amelia's Facebook page has an email address for her. I emailed her to thank her for everything she said. 😍

WarningToTheCurious · 31/03/2023 12:36

Amelia has done a great job of triggering trans Twitter 🤣

EndlessTea · 31/03/2023 11:37

Thank you so much OP. She’s brilliant.

nilsmousehammer · 31/03/2023 11:36

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 31/03/2023 11:12

I think thats the same lady that was on a bbc interview the other day (could be wrong, i only remember the blonde bob)

and at one point the interviewer said something like ‘what would you say to to the trans children that now can’t play sports’

Bravo that woman. And urgh those bloody manipulative misogynist questions...

'complicated and nuanced' - women really should give at least some of their equality up to men

'been through so much' - women you owe your equality to really sad men as a consolation prize

'what would you say to a child who now can't play sports' - NO CHILD CANNOT PLAY SPORTS. What would I say to a child sobbing because they cannot remove women's rights for their own benefit? I'd say it is not all about you, and I expect you to show respect for women and their equality instead of demanding that they sacrifice themselves for you.

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BigFrau · 31/03/2023 11:32

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 31/03/2023 11:12

I think thats the same lady that was on a bbc interview the other day (could be wrong, i only remember the blonde bob)

and at one point the interviewer said something like ‘what would you say to to the trans children that now can’t play sports’

Seriously?
Do you remember what BBC interview it was?

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Peregrina · 31/03/2023 11:26

and at one point the interviewer said something like ‘what would you say to to the trans children that now can’t play sports’

What would you say to women and girls who know that if they are competing against a biological male they won't win so may as well give up now? Or wait, should we invent a biological woman's category?

She quite correctly said that no one is stopping them, they just need to complete in the correct category for their biological sex.

xabia · 31/03/2023 11:20

Great interview! Well done Amelia👏

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