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Another male in female sport - today, it’s powerlifting’s turn

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JaneorEleven · 30/03/2023 17:04

I didn’t see a thread on this, but apologies if there is one already. Today in the New York Post, I saw an article about Avi Silverberg, a TransWoman. It shares how Avi broke the Canadian lifting record previously held by another TransWoman Anne Andres. We are seriously being trolled at this point.
https://nypost.com/2023/03/30/male-powerlifter-enters-womens-event-breaks-record/

Male powerlifter enters women’s event, breaks record

Avi Silverberg — the head coach for Team Canada Powerlifting for more than 10 years — entered Saturday’s Heroes Classic tournament in Lethbridge, Alberta, after identifying as a f…

https://nypost.com/2023/03/30/male-powerlifter-enters-womens-event-breaks-record/

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Sugarfree23 · 14/08/2023 17:54

Women joining men's events would be last anyway.

The best stance is the women who refuse to join a man on the podium. Deny them their moment of glory.

lechiffre55 · 14/08/2023 17:45

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 30/03/2023 17:45

Wouldn't it be wonderful if this guy could get all of the other male competitors to agree to temporarily 'self-identify' as TW and then compete in the women's competition, leaving all of the female competitors to then 'self-identify' as TM for the day and have an all-female 'men's' competition!

Of course, that would all be utterly ridiculous, as opposed to....

For a long time now I've though that if males are allowed to enter women's events why don't all the women join the men's event?
Once one male is in there they have a huge advantage against women. Women may as well join the men's race en masse. The special snowflake now competes alone. It's clear to everyone why the women joined the men's event. It draws even more attention to the unfairness, and it would get loads of press.
I'd do it wearing one of those novelty Groucho Marx plastic glasses, fake nose, and fake moustache all in ones. If anyone asked why I'd tell them off for questioning my true authentic identity. Can you imagine a bunch of women in a men's event being interviewed on TV "What's going on here then?" trying to keep straight faces as they answered. Shine even more light on the absurdity of it all.
It seems now sport is heading in the right direction but there was a time when I felt this was the way to go.

imed · 14/08/2023 15:49

Love him! Making a great point and doesn't give two fucks . Obviously not worried about violence from TRAs Grin

puffyisgood · 14/08/2023 09:18

you can't keep a good (wo)man down... apparently Ann Andres has broken some minor (eg unofficial and/or age group) lifting records. Note the small plastic dinosaur she carefully places on the podium next to her.

www.instagram.com/p/Cv6hejNOD7Y/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 02/04/2023 12:36

Almost like he doesn't actually believe that TWAW..?

Quite. That transwoman sounds like an appalling transphobe - which we all know is literal violence towards such a vulnerable group.

BobGalaxy · 02/04/2023 12:01

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 01/04/2023 21:56

The sour grapes from the previous record holder !

Some of them do seem to think that only they are special and allowed to break the rules, but other people should know their place.

It reminds me of the recent MN thread about a transwoman freely going into a women's toilet and being shocked and offended to find another transwoman in there! He was quite open about it that the only point of using it was to do so alongside natal women and presumably get off on their resulting awkwardness and fear.

Almost like he doesn't actually believe that TWAW..?

jeffgoldblum · 02/04/2023 11:53

I imagine it's harder to cheat against your own sex!

cornflakesandtea · 02/04/2023 11:29

The video on instagram that Anne Andres posted is so telling.
"Maybe my participation isn't necessarily fair... I mean, science, whatever" was so flippant, like they were digging deep to excuse themselves, and going on and on about how people loved them being there because of how kind and happy they were. No, these women DON'T love you being there!!! You're taking their titles and hard work away from them by simply being male!

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 02/04/2023 11:21

hard to understand why the previous record holder thinks this is unfair...

It's almost as if the goal is centring oneself and seeking maximum attention, rather than simply being allowed to live quietly as their authentic self....

RealityFan · 02/04/2023 11:15

howdoesatoastermaketoast · 02/04/2023 11:09

hard to understand why the previous record holder thinks this is unfair...

Everything is unfair in TransWorld. I'm surprised the TW didn't claim he was going to commit suicide as a result.

howdoesatoastermaketoast · 02/04/2023 11:09

hard to understand why the previous record holder thinks this is unfair...

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 01/04/2023 21:56

The sour grapes from the previous record holder !

Some of them do seem to think that only they are special and allowed to break the rules, but other people should know their place.

It reminds me of the recent MN thread about a transwoman freely going into a women's toilet and being shocked and offended to find another transwoman in there! He was quite open about it that the only point of using it was to do so alongside natal women and presumably get off on their resulting awkwardness and fear.

jeffgoldblum · 31/03/2023 17:35

The sour grapes from the previous record holder !
Really makes my day , have a taste of your own medicine! 🤣

ChuffKnows · 31/03/2023 17:14

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 31/03/2023 15:28

I don’t have a link but I believe he refused the winners spot & claim a record.

Just competed in the female section to make a point (Canadian law!) but didn’t want to take anything away from the actual female winner on the day.

The previous female record set by a male surely now needs to be struck from the books?

Thank you. Glad to hear it was his choice

IcakethereforeIam · 31/03/2023 15:46

TurnTheHeatingOff · 31/03/2023 13:55

WHat's the Jamaican guy thing? I missed it

Here you go. There's speculation that the woman with the megaphone is the fascist baby person.

https://twitter.com/markmaycot/status/1639928295159394304?s=20

https://twitter.com/markmaycot/status/1639928295159394304?s=20

lechiffre55 · 31/03/2023 15:39

There's more context and answers in that video I linked above, as well as reactions from the previous male record holder.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 31/03/2023 15:28

ChuffKnows · 31/03/2023 15:21

The press I've read around this says that he 'unofficially' beat the previous record with no explanation given. Anyone have a link that explains this please?

I don’t have a link but I believe he refused the winners spot & claim a record.

Just competed in the female section to make a point (Canadian law!) but didn’t want to take anything away from the actual female winner on the day.

The previous female record set by a male surely now needs to be struck from the books?

ChuffKnows · 31/03/2023 15:21

The press I've read around this says that he 'unofficially' beat the previous record with no explanation given. Anyone have a link that explains this please?

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 31/03/2023 14:47

TurnTheHeatingOff · 31/03/2023 13:55

WHat's the Jamaican guy thing? I missed it

Honor Oak protest against Drag Queen event.

Chap dancing to disco tunes in front of a sign saying ‘Groom Dogs not Kids’ is called a Nazi by a white female Queer Theory activist.

’I’m not a Nazi, I’m a black Jamaican’

They both have loudhailers, he sings ‘I’m not Nazi’ through his, she says he is the ‘most boring of all the boring people there’ (this is quite obviously a lie as he is very entertaining).
She gets her crowd chanting ‘fuck off’ at him.

He drowns them out with his own loudhailer shouting ‘Soyboy’ ‘Guardian reader’, ‘teacher’, ‘social worker’ ‘Labour voter’ and ‘racist’.

She calls him a ‘fucking rapist’.

https://twitter.com/markmaycot/status/1639928295159394304

The sound isn’t great and I’m not sure if she mishears ‘racist’ or if he says rapist first as part of his ‘Guardian reader, Soyboy’ list before she emphatically bellows it back at him.

We don’t know anything about him except he looks a LOT more fun to kick about with than the Queer Theory lot.

And it’s yet another incident of the Be Kind Equity & Diversity Love Brigade showing how intolerant they are towards anyone who disagrees with them, including people from minority populations who they pretend to give advocate for.

https://twitter.com/markmaycot/status/1639928295159394304

YouJustDoYou · 31/03/2023 14:23

He's a powerlifting coach who did it to protest Canada's self ID laws, and how ridiculous it is.

lechiffre55 · 31/03/2023 14:21

Here's a video from the Quartering which gives a lot more context.
The previous womens record holder is MtF and their record got completely demolished by the bloke in the story. The MtF in the video above goes on to complain about how unfair it was for their women's record to be destroyed by the man with no sense of "hang on maybe that's what it feels like for the women I rob of places in the competitions".
There's literally a male complaining that a stronger male has come along to the women's competition, and how unfair it is.
This video starts with the MtF complaining.
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Bearded Male Powerlifter DESTROYS Woman's Record In HILARIOUS Pushback Against Woke Policy!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?ab_channel=TheQuartering&t=621s&v=ucDpOfKDcMs

Sugarfree23 · 31/03/2023 14:05

Brilliant sooner or later the tide will turn. And then they will have to strip out the record holders of the records

TurnTheHeatingOff · 31/03/2023 13:55

WHat's the Jamaican guy thing? I missed it

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 31/03/2023 12:52

knittingaddict · 31/03/2023 12:44

Thank goodness for some pp giving context for this. I'm always a bit sceptical of "he did that to show the lunacy of trans rights". Looks like it may actually be true in this case.

His CV is evidence of his motivation.

Dude gives a shit about sports science and fairness. He’s a well respected coach who is obviously extremely familiar with the records for both male and female athletes and the difference in male and female physiology.

He’s the AntiLaurelHubbard!

https://barbend.com/author/avi-silverberg/

(yes, yes, I know powerlifting and weightlifting aren’t the same sport but if Laurel Hubbard can slip on pair of pink trainers and represent NZ at the Olympics, the sky’s the limit for Avi, who was more accomplished in a male category than Laurel ever was!)

(and I also know powerlifting is not an Olympic sport!)

Another male in female sport - today, it’s powerlifting’s turn
RealityFan · 31/03/2023 12:49

And what's amazing, for an ethos that has such a stranglehold on the West, particularly amongst the so-called intelligentsia, it's so easily shown to be bogus and full of shit, by the simplest of actions.
That's why I believe Gen Alpha will en masse reject this false worldview, as they see so clearly it's fakeness.