Communist Party UK statement on GRR

My grandma and her dead relatives wouldn’t agree with you.

My point is your great grandmother might have something to say about the regime before the communists.

But if you don't want to say which country (and that's fine) we can't have the conversation.

@MrsTerryPratchett It's interesting to point it that in many formally socialist/communist countries what went before was equally terrible, if not worse.

My grandma and her dead relatives wouldn’t agree with you. Her earliest memories are of death and control and restriction. I won’t vote Tory or Labour, but I will never vote for communism.

And we don't have free speech

You don’t appreciate what you have until you lose it. Being called a transphobe for saying you don’t want trans women in women’s only spaces isn’t the same as being imprisoned, tortured or executed for ridiculing or slating the government.

So clear and pro-woman. A sight for sore eyes!

FASCISTS!

Oh really? I hadn’t seen that

Careful you don't misgender him/her/it, Whaeanui, she/he/it, came out as " trans " some time ago.
I'm sure some people might posit that it was just something to throw in the face of whoever she was debating at the time but I couldn't possibly comment :-/

Tras have the same grasp of politics as they do of biology.

My grandfather was shot in Stalin's purges. My aunt and my uncle were sent to Siberia. My father fled but was barred from seeing his family for 50 years.

Yes, the USSR was a dreadful regime.

I'm still bloody happy that present day UK Communists know what a woman is.

At least we have freedom of speech and aren’t prosecuted for saying negative things about communism. My grandma saw middle class people executed publicly. Stepped over dead bodies in the street from starvation whilst being so skinny she could barely walk. Families losing their businesses and properties. Capitalism isn’t perfect, but at least we don’t live in fear.

It's interesting to point it that in many formally socialist/communist countries what went before was equally terrible, if not worse. Just plucking our out of the air, the Somozas in Nicaragua. Daniel Ortega and the Sandinistas may not have been perfect, but what went before was horrifying.

Comparing communism with democratic free market utopias isn't what the choice was. It was right-wing dictatorship versus communists.

And we don't have free speech. Not really.

I think there’s usually a Communist on the paper for Holborn St Pancras (Keir Starmer’s) constituency. Although it might be a different brand, People’s Republic of Communist Party or some such. I hope we get done door knocking.

'Nazis', I believe. Applying the logic of this weekend's trans activists.

I believe you are referring to what is actually state socialism

I don't support and I am not a member of any communist party, because I do not believe that state socialism will "give way to communism" or that the state will wither and die under socialism. far from it, the state will act just as the state does now, because the state is inherently interested in its own preservation.

You don’t need credibility when you have a violent mob to back you up.

Personally I hope the communists don’t show up at LWS because then actual fascists might turn up and that would very likely turn truly unpleasant.

“Nobody can credibly claim that the Communist Party are Right-wing!”

I really don’t think the useful idiots would hesitate. Just as women has been redefined as anyone who identifies as a woman, Right wing has been redefined as all heretics and apostates of/from the new gender identity religion, those who are an abomination and therefore should be wiped off the face of the earth.

I mean really who is it who is actually quite similar to Nazis?

From videos I have watched on this board in the past few days, TRAs are apparently against and call Nazi/Fascist; women who won’t obey them, homosexuals who won’t obey them, Muslims, Christians, in fact likely anyone belonging to any of the mainstream faiths, Communists, anyone who questions their mantras and beliefs, anyone who questions their methods, anyone who questions their authority, anyone who questions them.

They hurl the insults Nazi and fascist around freely but I doubt they have the first clue about 20th century history. They demonstrate zero understanding of these terms.

Perhaps a leavening of commies? I agree there's no communist utopia. But, perhaps, just enough to keep the capitalists relatively honest.

At least we have freedom of speech and aren’t prosecuted for saying negative things about communism. My grandma saw middle class people executed publicly. Stepped over dead bodies in the street from starvation whilst being so skinny she could barely walk. Families losing their businesses and properties. Capitalism isn’t perfect, but at least we don’t live in fear.

Oh yes.

Far out, hip and groovy.

TRAs may try.. After all, in their world, believing a thing makes it so!

Communism is the only social system in which women can have equality.
Yes, their lives are equally as bad as men's.

Why is it best to ignore a group just because their voice is quiet?

God bless capitalism!!!!!

Of course it's not. But at least they know what a woman is!
The UK isn't going to suddenly become a communist state because the communist party puts up a few candidates.

Cost of living an all!

I have never seen so much support for socialist ideas and so many critical comments about capitalism as I have recently on MN.

No commie option 😪