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Communist Party UK statement on GRR

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Ingenieur · 29/03/2023 19:03

https://www.communistparty.org.uk/the-gender-recognition-bill-and-equality-law/

Gender as an ideological construct should not be confused or conflated with the material reality of biological sex. Gender is the vehicle through which misogyny is enacted and normalised.

I think I know who's getting my vote this year!

The Gender Recognition Bill and Equality Law - Communist Party of Britain

Communist Party executive committee STATEMENT March 2023 1 The GRR Bill was passed by the Scottish Parliament on 22 December, 2022. The Bill reforms the 2004 Gender Recognition Act (GRA) for Scotland only. It changes the process for obtaining a gender...

https://www.communistparty.org.uk/the-gender-recognition-bill-and-equality-law

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BlackForestCake · 30/03/2023 18:09

This is getting interesting, the SWP has chipped in with its TWAW line:

"The Russian Revolution opened the door to women’s and LGBT+ liberation. Stalin’s counter-revolution recriminalised homosexuality and abortion in the 1930s. That legacy lives on todayThere’s no conflict between women’s and trans rights, trans women are women, trans men are men"
https://twitter.com/SWP_Britain/status/1641473471413641219

So basically making the same points as Owen Jones

https://twitter.com/SWP_Britain/status/1641473471413641219

Notaflippinclue · 30/03/2023 18:02

Re parents not being told their kids are trans by schools - GB news have just shown creepy clips of Jeffrey Marsh with Peter Tatchell coming out with the most ridiculous pseudo nonsense about cause of kids being trans is biological and backed by science for fucks sake - watch it on catch up - no wonder kids are confused.

FinallyHere · 30/03/2023 17:59

LizziesTwin · 29/03/2023 20:07

I have a party I can support.

This.

FinallyHere · 30/03/2023 17:58

@Ingenieur

Nobody can credibly claim that the Communist Party are Right-wing!

I'm guessing they will try. Really hope it doesn't work. Grin.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 30/03/2023 17:57

Look at LOJ, lording it over the proles, bragging about his TWO degree from Oxford University.

I can’t quite decide if Gracie is an idiot who genuinely believes a controversial male news media figure needs defending from a female fiction author or if pointing out that JK has 14 million followers is a clever undercover put down at LOJ’s expense?

The insult equivalent of a humble brag?

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Sausagenbacon · 30/03/2023 17:51

I would never see myself as a Communist but my God it's heartening to see the issue of gender skewered so neatly. It made me feel like cheering.
The whole report is worth reading IMO

Ohyoudodoyou · 30/03/2023 17:33

ArabellaScott · 30/03/2023 17:28

This is no laughing matter, Billy.

Bully and Little Owen will be feverishly DM'ing each other now about 'Jo' and all her fascist, I mean communist, sorry Stalinist, no not that radical feminist... WOMEN followers.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 30/03/2023 17:29

😅

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ArabellaScott · 30/03/2023 17:28

This is no laughing matter, Billy.

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CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 30/03/2023 17:27

EmpressaurusOfCats · 30/03/2023 17:20

Ash Sarkar and Owen Jones have been very busy on Twitter explaining that she’s a different kind of Communist. So it’s ok.

A libertarian communist, no less 🤦‍♀️

I can’t see any circumstances where an entire nation will happily give up their homes and businesses to the state without authoritarian force being involved, so I’m not sure how Ash plans to square that little circle.

Of course, Ash’s politics exist only in lalaland, so she’s probably not given it much thought.

ArabellaScott · 30/03/2023 17:25

Twitter RN.

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Ohyoudodoyou · 30/03/2023 17:23

Foxy.

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EmpressaurusOfCats · 30/03/2023 17:20

Ash Sarkar and Owen Jones have been very busy on Twitter explaining that she’s a different kind of Communist. So it’s ok.

funnelfan · 30/03/2023 17:17

As a Christian who enjoys pointing out to those who preach the "prosperity gospel" that the early church practiced a form of communism, this cheers me up enormously.

I've considered myself more left-wing/Old Labour than New Labour for a very long time, but always voted for them as the least-worst mainstream party that at least paid lip service to the causes of social justice. I may have to start looking at the communist manifesto a bit more closely.

BlackForestCake · 30/03/2023 17:08

That one tweet now has two million views and 900 quote tweets. That's "no debate" finished.

donquixotedelamancha · 30/03/2023 16:59

What you and a lot of people get confused about is authoritarian dictators who say they are communists

As opposed to all those freedom loving, non-murdery communist regimes?

i get that you have family issues around "communism" but if you are not prepared to accept that the issues around the USSR are based mainly on clearly narcissistic authoritarian dictators, I can't say anything that will change your mind.

Jewish people exhibit similar 'family issues' in refusing to accept that Naziism is lovely if you ignore Hitler doing it wrong.

Ohyoudodoyou · 30/03/2023 16:58

FloraGreysteel · 30/03/2023 16:50

The Morning Star is a good paper too :-)

I was raised on The Morning Star. I guess my mum would be proud as only a few weeks ago I had already said to friends I was considering joining the CP and everyone was baffled, it was this article that swayed me:
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/women-class-and-gender-%E2%80%93-communist-perspective

FloraGreysteel · 30/03/2023 16:50

The Morning Star is a good paper too :-)

Ohyoudodoyou · 30/03/2023 16:49

I am really enjoying this! On a serious note, their statement is clear and reasonable, what we should be expecting from Labour/SNP/Green Party.
In the blink of an eye all this fuckery started and here we are, uneasy bedfellows with factions we did not expect to be in bed with, but as women we must keep the path clear for the safeguarding of Women and Children. Bad men like Little OJ can go swivel. His tantrums escalate each week, it's very amusing.

bellinisurge · 30/03/2023 16:48

This is a genuinely hilarious interlude in all the recent madness

Brefugee · 30/03/2023 16:48

look @flyingbuttress43 i get that you have family issues around "communism" but if you are not prepared to accept that the issues around the USSR are based mainly on clearly narcissistic authoritarian dictators, I can't say anything that will change your mind.

But that is the absolute truth of those nations.

Signalbox · 30/03/2023 16:43

ArabellaScott · 30/03/2023 16:35

Well, this is making for a fun afternoon.

I had to go and watch it now...

Life of Brian - The People's Front of Judea

PFJ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WboggjN_G-4

ArabellaScott · 30/03/2023 16:36

Crikey, Twitter.

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ArabellaScott · 30/03/2023 16:35

Well, this is making for a fun afternoon.

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Signalbox · 30/03/2023 16:29

Just to point out the CPB and the CPGB are different organisations and this statement is from the CPB.

But this is quite interesting in terms of who is likely to believe in biology isn't it? Transpires that there are people who recognise the material reality of biological sex across the entire political spectrum. All the way from anarchists, the CPB, the Morning Star, many of the mainstream newspapers, all the mainstream political parties (although this lot need to pull their socks up a bit), the religious right in America and Nazis. So AWAs can hardly get away with continuing to imply that GC = aligned with Nazis can they?