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Communist Party UK statement on GRR

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Ingenieur · 29/03/2023 19:03

https://www.communistparty.org.uk/the-gender-recognition-bill-and-equality-law/

Gender as an ideological construct should not be confused or conflated with the material reality of biological sex. Gender is the vehicle through which misogyny is enacted and normalised.

I think I know who's getting my vote this year!

The Gender Recognition Bill and Equality Law - Communist Party of Britain

Communist Party executive committee STATEMENT March 2023 1 The GRR Bill was passed by the Scottish Parliament on 22 December, 2022. The Bill reforms the 2004 Gender Recognition Act (GRA) for Scotland only. It changes the process for obtaining a gender...

https://www.communistparty.org.uk/the-gender-recognition-bill-and-equality-law

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Laladybird · 31/03/2023 19:25

Succinct summary. Well done The Communist Party for laying it out so clearly. Shame supposedly mainstream parties are in such a fankle over this.

Stillcountingbeans · 31/03/2023 18:26

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 30/03/2023 12:58

https://twitter.com/CPBritain/status/1641075720930639872

Rom is awfully like a customer services Chatbot. What does he think Communism even is, if he thinks you can take the ‘class reductionism’ out of it? 😅

Miri is so disinterested in terves Miri posts tweets about how disinterested in terves Miri is.

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4.1 million views!

nepeta · 31/03/2023 17:44

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 31/03/2023 17:15

I quite fancy a furry hat with ear flaps but I suppose I’d be best just waiting for the Autumn/Winter 2023 collection to be released?

One for me, one for Ash.

These are quite useful in Arctic winter temperatures. When I wore one, I looked like my spaniel with long ears. We were a matched set, running through the snow drifts.

But the hats were popularised by Soviet leaders, of course, though they really are apolitical.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 31/03/2023 17:15

I quite fancy a furry hat with ear flaps but I suppose I’d be best just waiting for the Autumn/Winter 2023 collection to be released?

One for me, one for Ash.

Communist Party UK statement on GRR
Communist Party UK statement on GRR
IcakethereforeIam · 31/03/2023 17:10

Apropos of nothing in particular. I think berets can look quite natty. Can you get them in suffragette colours?

NotHavingIt · 31/03/2023 13:11

Billy Bragg doesn't seem to be having much fun on twitter. He's been told that the"little transactivist island he is on is being consumed by the rising tides"

Communist Party UK statement on GRR
CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 31/03/2023 12:54

That last sentence cracks me up. 31 years to persuade a second worker to support them!

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 31/03/2023 12:52

When I was a student (early 1980s) a fellow student was an active member of the Communist Party of Britain (Marxist-Leninist). He was keen to make sure people knew this was very different from the Communist Party of Great Britain. People's Front of Judaea indeed!

Wikipedia tells me this about the CPB(M-L), which I am amazed to see is still in existence.

The party was formed in 1968 by Reg Birch as a Maoist, anti-revisionist breakaway from the Communist Party of Great Britain, siding with the Communist Party of China in the Sino-Soviet split.[1] From 1979 onwards the CPB-ML sided with Enver Hoxha in the Sino-Albanian split.[2] A small number of members split from the party in 1975, forming the Nottingham Communist Group. In 1976, three branches of the CPB-ML split and formed the Communist Workers Movement, initially under the leadership of Ian Williams.[3] This group later joined the Revolutionary Communist League of Britain. In the 1980s, the CPB-ML came to support the Soviet Union again for a period, before dropping this line over Mikhail Gorbachev's reforms. More recently, the CPB-ML has developed a national line for Britain: "Rebuild Britain"; the party is strongly opposed to the European Union.[4] The party published The Worker from 1969 until 2000, when it became Workers.

That last sentence cracks me up. 31 years to persuade a second worker to support them! Grin

It all reminds me of the endless schisms in the Free Church of Scotland.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 31/03/2023 12:41

Signalbox · 31/03/2023 12:34

I do really enjoy the Spiked podcast. That probably makes me a bad person :D

Fascist!

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Signalbox · 31/03/2023 12:34

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 31/03/2023 12:28

I’m expecting this weeks Spiked podcast to be hilariously withering.

I do really enjoy the Spiked podcast. That probably makes me a bad person :D

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 31/03/2023 12:28

I’m expecting this weeks Spiked podcast to be hilariously withering.

EmpressaurusOfCats · 31/03/2023 12:24

CrinklyLoveStick · 31/03/2023 12:19

Isn’t that awful woman Ash Sarkar a communist? How does she square that with her TWAW stance?

Oh, but that’s completely different. She’s a libertarian communist.

CrinklyLoveStick · 31/03/2023 12:19

Isn’t that awful woman Ash Sarkar a communist? How does she square that with her TWAW stance?

NotHavingIt · 31/03/2023 12:16

Ingenieur · 31/03/2023 12:04

Ooh, that's a great breakdown @NotHavingIt . Completely skewers the hypocrisy of the Progressive Left's cognitive dissonance on the issue

As does this review, in the Morning Star, of a book about 'Luxury Communism" by Aaron Bastani.

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/c/fully-automated-luxury-comunism-review

Southwestten · 31/03/2023 12:13

If communism was done in smaller countries (Central America if the US hadn't murdered everyone) it might have worked on a small scale. Never would work in large countries

MrsTerryPratchett Cuba?
Anyone who criticises the government are locked up and the recent protests were squashed quickly.
Are there any countries which have actually voted for communism in a democratic vote?

Ingenieur · 31/03/2023 12:04

Ooh, that's a great breakdown @NotHavingIt . Completely skewers the hypocrisy of the Progressive Left's cognitive dissonance on the issue

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Abhannmor · 30/03/2023 23:11

You could vote Communist with a clear conscience. They're not going to be elected under FPTP.
You do get the odd ' white crow event' in special circumstances.

The Irish Home Rule MP T.P. O'Connor was elected for Liverpool Scotland constituency many times . At least once without opposition.
But then Liverpool is virtually the Irish capital.

Again , I never thought I'd see a Green MP returned. No sign of no 2 however.

Yes there is no chance they would be elected now. Worth remembering there were 1 or 2 Communist MPs elected regularly under FPTP from the 20s to the early 50s though. The obvious oppression of the USSR in the 50s and the cold war destroyed their base in Scotland, Wales and the North.

This Communist party the CPB is I think the biggest, and most directly connected of the various UK Communist parties that claim the legacy of the old Communist Party of Great Britain. Still tiny though, but its members do have significant influence on the left. It has strong links to the Morning Star circulation 10,000 so this policy on gender is not insignificant. The Star, people may remember has regularly featured gender critical articles.

The Morning Star used to have Corbyn as a columnist. If Owen Jones and Ash Sarkar now regard everyone connected to the CPB as evil Stalinists that includes Corbyn and many others they used to hang out with.

The Star's take on Luxury Communism is entertaining:
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/c/fully-automated-luxury-comunism-review

Abhannmor · 30/03/2023 23:11

You could vote Communist with a clear conscience. They're not going to be elected under FPTP.
You do get the odd ' white crow event' in special circumstances.

The Irish Home Rule MP T.P. O'Connor was elected for Liverpool Scotland constituency many times . At least once without opposition.
But then Liverpool is virtually the Irish capital.

Again , I never thought I'd see a Green MP returned. No sign of no 2 however.

IcakethereforeIam · 30/03/2023 22:01

Yes, you're right. She's finally credited further down the thread.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 30/03/2023 21:56

Me too, but I think it's the work of Moleatthedoor. Should have been credited.

IcakethereforeIam · 30/03/2023 21:44

This proper made me laugh

https://twitter.com/LokisHuman/status/1641507923112124436?s=20

Communist Party UK statement on GRR
RedToothBrush · 30/03/2023 20:57

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 20:12

Isn’t that woman Ash a communist?

No she's neoliberal who identifies as communist and has no idea what communism is.

funnelfan · 30/03/2023 20:46

BellaAmorosa · 30/03/2023 19:43

@funnelfan
As a Christian who enjoys pointing out to those who preach the "prosperity gospel" that the early church practiced a form of communism, this cheers me up enormously.

That's interesting, I didn't know that about the early church. Weren't kibbutzes organised on communist lines as well? I remember reading somewhere that the US was initially extremely suspicious of and hostile to Israel in the very early days for that reason, or due to that perception, at least.

It’s mostly in the Acts of the Apostles, which describes what the Apostles did after Jesus resurrection and ascension. They all lived together, pooled their resources into common ownership and the distributed on the basis of need.

Its consistent with other parts of the bible, eg the love of money is the root of all evil; no man can serve two masters (ie God and money); blessed are the poor; easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man get into heaven.

I am no student of political theory but I think if the left-right balance of politics could be dragged a bit closer towards the modern form of European democratic socialism by voting for the communists, than I’m all for it.

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