Communist Party UK statement on GRR

I think everywhere in the world has cottoned on to the fact the West generally doesn’t care about communism but cares a lot about fascism.
Therefore if an authoritarian government/dictatorship call themselves communist they’ll be pretty much left alone.
Imagine if China described itself as fascist - they’d come in for far more criticism over their poor human rights and giving loans to countries such as Sri Lanka which then cannot pay them back.

I don’t think it has ever been done anywhere without totalitarianism and authoritarianism.

It is basically the idea of two rather young men isn’t it? Perhaps it is just not practical in real life. Most people who subscribe to communism in youth seem to grow out of it as they gain life experience.

*an

I’d still be interested to hear and answer to this.

Well spotted. That was exactly my point. Presumably Mr Zuckerberg regards all government as basically Communist and all taxation as theft.

Like most of the 1%.

Ha ha sarcasm goes right over my head every time :D

I was being sarcastic :)

Oh sorry I misunderstood you as saying anarchist = Antifa.

Please can posters name a country where communism works well? One where leaders don’t still live in the lap of luxury whilst at the same time suppressing the masses?

I wasn't talking about Antifa so not sure why your comment is aimed at me. I was talking about organised anarchist groups in the UK

I think we are actually agreeing - the theory is definitely there.

I wasn't talking about Antifa so not sure why your comment is aimed at me. I was talking about organised anarchist groups in the UK.

I think it probably is unfair to say that

Indeed. The theory is there - whether or not Antifa read it is another matter.

' I don't think government is really the way forward ' Mark Zuckerberg.

Surely communist regimes have governments? Even though there’s a dictator at the top there are still people in subordinate positions to carry out orders.

I don't think it's unfair to say that most people on the anarchist left have little interest in theory.

I think it probably is unfair to say that.

O'Neill was in the Revolutionary Communist Party.

As was Claire Fox and Munira Mirza - adviser to Boris Johnson.

And Kenan Malik who writes for the Guardian. Kenan thinks culture wars always benefit the Right. The Left should refocus on class.

I was acquainted with Claire in the 80s. It would be an exaggeration to say I knew her really.
She shouted at me on a coach at a Troops Out march. Although , in fairness , she shouted at other people too. Claire is good at shouting. Sometimes you need shouty people I suppose.

Another RCP woman whose names escapes me is running a Tory council in south London afaik. For a tiny group it wields a lot of influence and its alumni have unshakeable self confidence. Like a sort of far left Eton. Such that when they appear in the Lords representing the Brexit Party they can still claim to be republican socialists.

Well why not? The whole thing is like a Punch and Judy show now.

I don't think it's unfair to say that most people on the anarchist left have little interest in theory.

What puzzles me are the Marxist groups with theoretical journals coming out with this stuff.

I read the Socialist Party article and there's no attempt to explain why TWAW, just the usual Stonewall claims. No analysis there.

I know quite a few anarchist types. After the Anarchist Bookfair 2017 when Helen Steel was attacked by activists it created a split in the scene that has never resolved. Now it's pretty much like every other political sphere with accusations of transphobia and bigotry against anyone (or any organisation) who won't openly state that TWAW with zero reservations.

Chile 1973. Causing Kissinger to say : we cannot allow a country to go Communist due to the irresponsibility of its own people.

Tens of thousands died in the CIA coup and subsequent purges. Including the democratically elected President.

Nicaragua 1980s.

Spain 1936 iirc . A Socialist and Communist coalition elected.

Kerala state in India. Communists frequently elected. One of the few states with good health , education , welfare etc.

Sure , it's no magic bullet. But what we have now is the limited democracy the Corporations are willing to allow us.

' I don't think government is really the way forward ' Mark Zuckerberg.

Quite.

I do remember there was dissent among some of the grassroots anarchist groups, some of whom were supportive of women and some supportive of genderists. I'm sure I saw a couple of statements to support the former views.

Has anybody asked the anarcho syndicalists?

And the Anarchist Federation. Although rumour has it that there are only half a dozen members in this organisation so probably doesn't mean very much.

https://twitter.com/AnarchistFed/status/1641427906369814529

Bogus Dickus strikes again.

The Socialist Party has weighed in…

Interesting! Thanks for informing me on that.