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KJK vs Keir Starmer

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Faffertea · 29/03/2023 12:28

https://twitter.com/ThePosieParker/status/1640976304773234688?cxt=HHwWgIC8rajQ9cUtAAAA

I don’t know if she can win given it’s been a Labour constituency since it was formed (in 1980s) and was held by Frank Dobson and then Keir Starmer and according to data is a ‘progressive’ constituency, average age 41 and good job security. Interestingly I can’t find data on constituency make up by sex.

I’m not sure she’s expecting to win. She knows she can cause an awful lot of disruption though. And I say bring it on!

https://twitter.com/ThePosieParker/status/1640976304773234688?cxt=HHwWgIC8rajQ9cUtAAAA

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BernardBlacksMolluscs · 30/03/2023 09:38

Sausagesandeggs · 30/03/2023 09:11

For the third time, I support her.

Way to prove my point.

Heavens to murgatroyd woman

what is it you want to say about her that you think you can’t?

spit it out

PronounssheRa · 30/03/2023 09:35

I was pretty indifferent towards Posie until all the bullying posts started popping up.I absolutely hate bullying,

Same. I'm also fucked off with people lecturing on how women should spend on own money, where we should donate etc

I'm going to throw a donation KJKs way.

MarshaBradyo · 30/03/2023 09:32

I think she’s great as she gets cut through

As much as it looks easy the reality of turning up, being the face, convincing people - it’s daunting to many.

There are other women who are great JKR for example but very few women speaking on this get this air time

It’s what we need

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 30/03/2023 09:28

I was pretty indifferent towards Posie until all the bullying posts started popping up.
I absolutely hate bullying, especially pernicious picking and attempts to freeze out an individual which motivated me to really look into their ‘concerns’ and ‘nuance’.
The more I looked, the more I liked her.

Pleased to see the wonderful Hibo Wardere supporting her recently (the patronising ‘I’m so disappointed in you’ comments from The Women of The GenderBorg) are amusing.

https://twitter.com/hibowardere/status/1640295546291200002

I wonder if Hibo would stand? I have a vague recollection that she might live in David Lammy’s constituency! 😆

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Florissante · 30/03/2023 09:23

Datun · 30/03/2023 09:13

Your point was there's no room to speak if you have concerns. There is no such thing as no room to speak on this website.

Speak. Start a thread.

Why act and when being a victim is more satisfying?

FOJN · 30/03/2023 09:18

Sausagesandeggs · 30/03/2023 09:14

I have spoken frequently, for years. Perhaps I should have been clearer: there is no room to discuss.

Sorry are you demanding that we engage with you if you post a comment?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/03/2023 09:17

I do think that targeted constituencies is better than too thin. I'd like to see someone run against Lisa Nandy for example, to put sunlight on her belief that trans rapists should be in women's prisons. Someone against Lammy, dinosaurs. Those who have had over anti -woman positions are key targets.

Yes I agree, and covering all regions to maximise local TV regional coverage.

Datun · 30/03/2023 09:16

Sausagesandeggs · 30/03/2023 09:14

I have spoken frequently, for years. Perhaps I should have been clearer: there is no room to discuss.

People disagreeing with you is not the equivalent of there is no room to speak.

You can't force people to discuss things that they don't agree with.

All you can do is put your view point across, and wait for the reaction. If the reaction is disagreement, that's life.

lifeturnsonadime · 30/03/2023 09:14

Right let's get back on topic and away from the detractors. I can't personally stand as I would destroy my relationship with my daughter, sadly, and that's not a price I can pay.

I can help though. I've got time and I am looking to volunteer. I don't care what that help looks like. I'm up for it.

I do think that targeted constituencies is better than too thin. I'd like to see someone run against Lisa Nandy for example, to put sunlight on her belief that trans rapists should be in women's prisons. Someone against Lammy, dinosaurs. Those who have had over anti -woman positions are key targets.

If anyone knows how I can actively help short of actually running, for the reason given above, please pm me.

Sausagesandeggs · 30/03/2023 09:14

Datun · 30/03/2023 09:13

Your point was there's no room to speak if you have concerns. There is no such thing as no room to speak on this website.

Speak. Start a thread.

I have spoken frequently, for years. Perhaps I should have been clearer: there is no room to discuss.

Whatthechicken · 30/03/2023 09:13

I will happily fangirl KJK. Where the fuck would we be right now without her?

Datun · 30/03/2023 09:13

Sausagesandeggs · 30/03/2023 09:11

For the third time, I support her.

Way to prove my point.

Your point was there's no room to speak if you have concerns. There is no such thing as no room to speak on this website.

Speak. Start a thread.

Sausagesandeggs · 30/03/2023 09:11

FOJN · 30/03/2023 09:09

KJK is acting and getting results and you think now is the time for a nuanced discussion about what she is doing right and what she is doing wrong. Nice way to willfully misunderstand a post.

You know there's a really nasty Facebook page for people who have nothing good to say about her, it's surprisingly quiet, perhaps you could reinvigorate it with by starting a nuanced discussion about her.

For the third time, I support her.

Way to prove my point.

FOJN · 30/03/2023 09:09

Sausagesandeggs · 30/03/2023 09:05

You’re on a forum messaging. You’re not acting.

KJK is acting and getting results and you think now is the time for a nuanced discussion about what she is doing right and what she is doing wrong. Nice way to willfully misunderstand a post.

You know there's a really nasty Facebook page for people who have nothing good to say about her, it's surprisingly quiet, perhaps you could reinvigorate it with by starting a nuanced discussion about her.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 30/03/2023 09:08

Sausagesandeggs · 30/03/2023 09:05

You’re on a forum messaging. You’re not acting.

You’re on a forum complaining about the things other postefs type. That’s even less than acting.

Posie is planning action.

Start a new thread if you want to direct the conversation.

7Worfs · 30/03/2023 09:08

xabia · 30/03/2023 07:24

How many women are as brave as KJK?
Funding and behind the scenes support are a different matter but most of us have families and jobs.
Ludicrous though it may be this will be seen as a single issue party and will attract the usual mentally disturbed idiots
We can all help with publicity, stickers, conversations with our other candidates.
I hope I'm being over cautious. I wish I was brave.

What’s stopping you being brave?

This is the time to start sharing your position; after Maya’s win we have certain protections at work.
Depending on how braindead progressive one’s workplace is, the message can be tailored to minimise personal risk, and still take a stand.
If ordinary women start speaking up anywhere and everywhere, it will be a tsunami of public pressure. We have to stop being so passive about this, and many other things that make us uncomfortable.

Datun · 30/03/2023 09:07

Sausagesandeggs · 30/03/2023 09:04

I just said I support her. But those of us who have questions, concerns, or don’t necessarily agree with every fart in the wind, should have room to speak too.

Or is it only certain kinds of women who are allowed? Those who follow blindly.

For the record, I think Posie is happy to discuss nuance. I just don’t think, on the whole, this forum allows for it.

There's no such thing as 'no room to speak'. It doesn't exist. Speak. Start a thread.

MarshaBradyo · 30/03/2023 09:06

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 30/03/2023 09:05

There are threads and threads of ‘concerns’.

That is true. The first time I heard about KJK was on a very long thread of criticism and concerns

I don’t think it’s absent from this forum, the opposite I’d say

Sausagesandeggs · 30/03/2023 09:05

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You’re on a forum messaging. You’re not acting.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 30/03/2023 09:05

Sausagesandeggs · 30/03/2023 09:04

I just said I support her. But those of us who have questions, concerns, or don’t necessarily agree with every fart in the wind, should have room to speak too.

Or is it only certain kinds of women who are allowed? Those who follow blindly.

For the record, I think Posie is happy to discuss nuance. I just don’t think, on the whole, this forum allows for it.

There are threads and threads of ‘concerns’.

Sausagesandeggs · 30/03/2023 09:04

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 30/03/2023 09:01

You must be reading the Posie specific threads then! 😅

If she’s not your bag, just swerve them. It’s not compulsory to like her, just don’t make up ‘facts’ about her.

I just said I support her. But those of us who have questions, concerns, or don’t necessarily agree with every fart in the wind, should have room to speak too.

Or is it only certain kinds of women who are allowed? Those who follow blindly.

For the record, I think Posie is happy to discuss nuance. I just don’t think, on the whole, this forum allows for it.

Datun · 30/03/2023 09:04

Sausagesandeggs · 30/03/2023 08:58

I’m not just referring to this thread. I’ve seen it time and time again in this forum.

Lol. Stop reading them then.

It's an undeniable fact that Posie Parker detractors universally contribute to her popularity.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 30/03/2023 09:03

Laladybird · 30/03/2023 08:57

That was the Scottish indyref. Actually surprisingly apathetic turnout for Brexit referendum.

@landOFconfusion I would say Farage was pleased with the result. Extracting ftom a 40 year union is a complicated matter. Establishing that there are two biological sexes would be straightforward.

i was thinking overall votes cast, rather than percentage!

But yes, I accept the correction that percentage wise, it was Indyref.

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FOJN · 30/03/2023 09:02

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CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 30/03/2023 09:01

Sausagesandeggs · 30/03/2023 08:58

I’m not just referring to this thread. I’ve seen it time and time again in this forum.

You must be reading the Posie specific threads then! 😅

If she’s not your bag, just swerve them. It’s not compulsory to like her, just don’t make up ‘facts’ about her.