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NBC are quoting a police chief in Nashville...

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FusionChefGeoff · 27/03/2023 22:37

That's all I'm saying - Google is your friend and it's in the byline.

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ItIsFiat · 27/03/2023 22:58

This and the Morning TV personality threads keep being deleted.

9 year old children. RIP.

ObsidianOpal · 27/03/2023 22:56

I'm now confused as I have just seen a news report and the police chief says they identified as a transwoman?!

Awrite · 27/03/2023 22:54

Words matter. Who knew?

Notegoat · 27/03/2023 22:53

Children are murdered and the first thing that comes into your head is ‘what biological sex was the shooter?’ Really?

JoyousAsOtters · 27/03/2023 22:53

ObsidianOpal · 27/03/2023 22:40

@JoyousAsOtters I'm not sure what you mean? This would be wouldn't it?

Oh really? Apologies if so, I was confused by the term ‘transgender woman’ in the New York Post and thought transwoman.

QueenHippolyta · 27/03/2023 22:53

I read bio woman who used he/him pronouns, so a TIF and transman.

HereForTheFreeLunch · 27/03/2023 22:53

There's this on Twitter - not sure who it is but it's a blue tick so either it cost 8 pounds or it means something.
https://twitter.com/OliLondonTV/status/1640463854529564677

https://twitter.com/OliLondonTV/status/1640463854529564677

Awrite · 27/03/2023 22:52

Wonder if she was taking testosterone. Wonder if there were other conditions alongside the dysphonia.

We can't know the long term impact of cross sex hormones in such cases.

Boomboom22 · 27/03/2023 22:52

Seems being in the trans c...t is enough, even if you are female.

dementedpixie · 27/03/2023 22:51

Is there a link to a picture?
All the news sites seem to say the opposite to each other so hard to determine if they are a trans man or trans woman

MarchMadness23 · 27/03/2023 22:51

FFS.

How did it come to this???

can I please go back to the '70's. It wasn't perfect, but it was a LOT better than all this crap. Boy/man girl/woman. Such a simple time.

IClaudine · 27/03/2023 22:51

Kerfuffler · 27/03/2023 22:47

Bbc reporting:

They named the shooter, who died at the scene, as Audrey Hale, and they said she identified as a transgender woman.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-65087221
(22:40 update today)

It is still not clear. It says the shooter was a 28-year-old female who identified as transgender. Which implies a trans man?

There are also conflicting reports on whether she shot herself or was shot by police.

It is tragic, however the shooter identified.

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FusionChefGeoff · 27/03/2023 22:50

BBC: Transgender woman?! Didn't that used to mean MTF as TWAW?? I'm so confused

Arghhhhhhhhhggghhhh

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FusionChefGeoff · 27/03/2023 22:49

Oh FFS this is why we need words to mean what they mean!!! Nothing is clear anymore but agree that the photo does look like an actual woman. Fuck me that is a genuine shock and I feel like a right twat now.

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QueenOfThorns · 27/03/2023 22:47

Looks ftm? Something I read said he/him pronouns used

Clymene · 27/03/2023 22:46

It's very difficult to discern what is meant by transgender woman but looking at the photographs, I'd say this is a woman.

Appalling crime.

IClaudine · 27/03/2023 22:46

The reports are hard to decipher as the use of pronouns don't seem to tally with how this person identified? But seems to be a trans man.

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FusionChefGeoff · 27/03/2023 22:45

I'm not so sure - the language is getting harder to unravel. The BBC used the phrase "trans gender females are not allowed to participate in women's events" and absolutely meant men when reporting on the recent world athletics decision

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EsmaCannonball · 27/03/2023 22:45

I wonder if this is the crazed, militant transactivist reaction to recent legislation passed in Tennessee?

HereForTheFreeLunch · 27/03/2023 22:45

OytheBumbler · 27/03/2023 22:45

So a trans man?

Yes

OytheBumbler · 27/03/2023 22:45

So a trans man?

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FusionChefGeoff · 27/03/2023 22:44

The name Audrey Hale is what led me to the report from NBC updated 16 minutes ago

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Decaffplease · 27/03/2023 22:44

It's a trans identifying female

Ie not a transwoman, a natal woman.