NBC are quoting a police chief in Nashville...

Dunblane

“Looks mentally ill” ?!

Dunblane, @MsJD ?

You send your precious children to school and never expect they might come to harm from anything more than a grazed knee. This murderous individual decides they have the right to take the lives of those babies and three of the people tasked with protecting them through the school day.

The mindset of that individual is rightly being questioned and if that means their questionable beliefs, we have a right to discuss it. If people don’t wish to discuss that aspect, then I would politely ask them to start a thread to offer their condolences to the families affected by this tragedy.

Also, nil school shootings by anyone of any gender in the UK. What is the point of this thread[

I can’t imagine how it must feel to send your children to school every day knowing that statistically there’s a reasonable chance a shooting might happen there. Here in the UK we don’t live with that fear.
Add to that, your state governor in Tennessee photographs himself and his kids holding guns for their official Christmas card.
I do think it’s relevant to discuss the fact the woman who shot these poor children, head teacher and two other adults identified as trans, she left a manifesto. News outlets are making the connection between their state recently banning hormone treatment for trans minors. They could just be speculating or have evidence in the manifesto.
On Twitter a hashtag of #transterrorism is trending. It’s full of comments about 4 shootings in the last 18 months being carried out by young people who identify as non binary or trans. It’s not dramatic to speculate that there could be a trend beginning where mentally ill youths caught up in the gender cult will carry out more shootings.
The MSM will either spin this as a reaction to policies that are trying to halt gender dysphoria treatment and push for more surgeries and cross sex hormones, or they will spin it the other way, more must be done to stop etc etc etc
Either way it’s putting the issue under the microscope, and not focusing on guns.
For me, I see a really messed up girl, who apparently was addicted to gaming, looks mentally ill in the photos I have seen and was perfect fodder for the scourge of our times, trans ideology.
As usual, innocent children are paying the price.

It might also be pertinent that this weekend a Trans Day of Retribution is planned in Washington. What a dreadful time to be a child.

No the take here is why is it so bloody difficult to get basic information such as the sex of the perpetrator from media reporting and the answer is gender ideology has so captured the media that we can’t get a straight answer. The media has been sold the lie that trans people are the most oppressed and can’t possibly ever be bad people that they don’t report basic truth.

And if they DO report the truth, that this was a woman, this highlights how quickly their capture goes when it’s a woman, but they are more than happy to keep referring to rapists as “she” FFS.

This is about how gender ideology and the media obfuscates the truth and has no boundaries in doing so, even if it relates to horrific events.

The US will never get its shit together about guns.
Because criminals won't give them up in any kind of amnesty, normies don't want to be left defenseless against criminals, and they use guns for their hobbies.v
You might as well as UK citizens to give up kitchen knives.

And if you don't want to hear the sex and gender aspect if this appalling crime, get off the sex and gender board, would be my advice.

It is utterly bizarre that every single crime commited by a 'transwoman' is reported as by a woman, and this crime by a 'transman' is reported as... By a woman.

My inner conspiracy theorist, (who I enjoy a healthy yet skeptical dialogue with) wonders if there is an attempt to try to make the chasm between male and female crimes smaller, so as to diminish the need for female only spaces and prisons. If both sexes offend at the same rates then single sex provisions are less necessary.

@Messyhair321

You obviously don't read much then there are loads but that is beside the point.

'Loads' of female mass shooters? 'Loads' of female school shooters?

Saying 'there are loads' doesn't make it true. It is statistically extremely rare for a mass / school shooter to be female. Vanishingly so.

What you've said, that 'there are loads', is a lie.

It's very odd to pretend otherwise.

Some data for you:

Most assailants in mass shootings in the United States are male, according to the Violence Projectt_, which maintains a national database of mass shootings dating to 1966.
In a data set of 172 mass shootings, which the group defines as involving four or more victims, only four assailants were women or girls. In two cases, women acted alongside a man.

This

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This appears to be the shooter

It's been roughly 1 mass shooting per day in the USA for years and years, so it appears 2023 is off to a record-breaking start. The only time there hasn't been a school shooting of late is when the schools were closed during the pandemic.

I just read on news a Transwoman and then describes as a female shooter. Horrific crime, USA and stupid gun laws killing more innocents but to use the word female, when it is a transwoman really pissed me off. It was a male shooter who identifies as a transwoman. Language matters, I don't get annoyed often but this riled me. Those poor families and children and adults. It is just awful

The latest news is that it was a woman who identified as a man.

Exactly

133!!!!! I can't believe it!!! That is MENTAL. They need to get rid of those guns.

Children and teachers are being shot dead in their schools and the take here is the question around the birth sex of the perpetrator? Not the fact that unbalanced, angry people maybe shouldn't have ready access to lethal weapons?

That's a given. But nothing will change. If Sandyhook or Parkland won't change the attitude in the US, this tragic case certainly won't. you can discuss the colour of the shirt the perpetrator wore and it won't take away one thing from the reality that americans (I am one and live here) will continue to let this happen.

If this tragedy happened in any other country, then yeah, all we should be talking about is why the murderer had access to guns. That is now almost irrelevant in the US so knock yourselves out talking about any other aspect of the crime - the access to guns aspect will not change.

You are only allowed to say this when it's the perpetrators religion or socioeconomic background that could play a part. Duh. This killer wrote a manifesto, yet it's still not enough. You can't make this up.

If it is uncovered that the motivation for this horrendous crime was something to do with trans ideology, then this has been a few days of stark insight into trans-ideology related agression and violence.

Of course I have no idea if this is, or isnt the case with regards to this crime, I am just going off what the sheriff has alluded to.

Be honest now, if they had left behind a manifesto citing far right influences, or kiwi farms, or even old school anti-feminist types it would be open for discussion including from you.
The main issue is the fact that children were killed. But the 'Why" is always going to be asked as well.
And if more women than previously are doing this then that does matter - because its a new demographic.

I just read on news a Transwoman and then describes as a female shooter. Horrific crime, USA and stupid gun laws killing more innocents but to use the word female, when it is a transwoman really pissed me off. It was a male shooter who identifies as a transwoman. Language matters, I don't get annoyed often but this riled me. Those poor families and children and adults. It is just awful

Just to expand on that, there have been 133 mass shootings so far this year in the USA.

I actually agree it's irrelevant if they're trans.

Is it? How can you be so sure? Was their motivation totally separate from their belief in transideology? We’re they taking testosterone which we know raises the risk of violent crime being committed by women?

When you look at the mob that attacked KJK in NZ, the sign MSPs were happy to be photographed with, the professor at a US university being suspended today for calling for the murder of those he disagreed with, can we really be sure it is irrelevant if they’re trans?

I wondered the same about the testosterone, BlessedKali.

Female mass shooters are really rare in the US as compared to male mass shooters. Lots of references to this all day in mainstream newspapers.