Trans woman threatened with physical violence by 'TERF'

I love little dogs like that. Felt sad when the drunk woman insulted it :(

Men don't usually get abuse so when they do, in whatever form they chose to live as, it shocks them and they are "horrified" and have to post about it. Sadly, women are all too used to such verbal abuse.

Is the purpose of this OP to persuade us that there is some sort of equivalence between these two events?

March 10
SAN FRANCISCO -- "A San Francisco trans woman was ^verbally assaulted* by a 70 year old woman"
(somewhat tipsy-sounding "verbal assailant" was ejected by management who were called by said TW - and it possibly didn't even happen as alleged)
https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/hostile-anti-trans-encounter-san-francisco-caught-camera/

March 25
New Zealand - A 72 year old woman had her lights punched out, with video evidence of vicious physical assault and injuries resulting. No "provocation" could possibly justify this ACTUAL physical assault.
https://twitter.com/Sorelle_Arduino/status/1639988067900481536

Anyone who thinks there is any equivalence between the first and second scenarios is beneath contempt.

Cute dog.

Meant to add, they also control school curriculums.

That is a man dressed up as a woman, we all know it, and it’s because the left who control most of the political, corporate, media and entertainment complexes are pushing ‘trans’ as the trendy thing. They have agendas and trans ideology and steering children and young people are a part of those agendas.

It bears a remarkable resemblance to Dame Evadne Hinge, to be fair!

What? Lily Contino miss a chance to play the victim? That will never happen.

@RosaBonheur

Either way, Lilly Contino clearly didn't feel remotely scared or threatened, and appeared amused by the whole situation.

That was certainly my impression and not the ridiculous hyperbole about assault. I agree that the old lady seemed to be in the wrong, but who knows how it began? The video starts in the middle of the exchange.

I'm sure that most people would brush it off, even if they were offended, like the filmer.

This weekend has proven: this is not a movement with the capacity for ethics, morals, rationality, boundaries or sanity.

I honestly expect nothing better than the gleeful infantile 'whoopee, smash, go me, rape and kill' sociopathy. It's about the same amount of reaction I'd now give Foul Ol' Ron with 'Buggrit, Millenium Hand and Shrimp'.

What has to happen now is that this kind of behaviour is stopped.

Well, yes, they are doing that.

So if we were on this thread all whooping for joy and saying, "Woohoo, well done that lady! You tell that horribly * where to go! I wish she actually had punched him!" that would be the equivalent of what they are doing.

We aren't doing that.

I said I don't care about this incident, and I don't. Not because I support people who randomly abuse trans people in restaurants, but because as others have pointed out, there isn't a woman, gay person or ethnic minority on earth who hasn't experienced far worse than this at some point in their life. It's a very run of the mill fact of life for just about everyone except privileged white males.

When trans activists stop literally assaulting women who are just trying to speak out about women's rights, when there are no more male prisoners in women's prisons, when trans people are campaigning for third spaces and their own sporting competitions so they won't be encroaching on women's, when female rape survivors can access single sex support without being called bigots, when "progressive" politicians have stopped calling women bigots and dinosaurs and "TERDs" simply for wanting to have their own spaces and not have to share them with any male who demands access, maybe then I will have the emotional bandwidth to care about a trans person being verbally abused by a mad old lady in a restaurant on a completely different continent.

Do you really think that somewhere on a trans forum, a group of trans people are discussing the fact that one of them actually assaulted Posie Parker, just for balance? I doubt it.

They're discussing it with sheer joy, not "for balance."

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1214ej5/i_know_the_terfs_will_twist_this_but_im_so_proud/

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/12146l7/for_anyone_still_following_uk_terf_kellie_jaykeen/

100% this.

Unpopular opinion: I don't care about this or think it's anything to do with me.

The fact that people like me have been labelled TERFs (which is essentially a derogatory term for uppity women who won't do as they're told) does not mean I am one or that I have anything to do with the woman whose voice is heard in the video.

She sounds like a confused old woman who is probably not quite right in the head and may not even understand what a TERF is. Nobody knows what experiences she may have had in her life to form such views about trans people. Perhaps she's had a traumatic encounter or two. Perhaps she really is just a bigot. Either way, Lilly Contino clearly didn't feel remotely scared or threatened, and appeared amused by the whole situation. Probably thinking, "This will be great content for Tiktok!"

Do you really think that somewhere on a trans forum, a group of trans people are discussing the fact that one of them actually assaulted Posie Parker, just for balance? I doubt it.

lots of women call themselves TERFs. That's neither here nor there.

PP made the point already: we are not gloating about this. We are saying that there is no need for this kind of thing to happen and it's not right.

Pouring soup over someone and screaming at them? hahaha fucking TERFs deserve it //dance dance//

It's interesting, isn't it, how no one on here is saying the rude woman was in the right, or gloating about this person having his meal ruined. Compare that to the utter glee shown by TRAs about KJK having soup poured over her, and the arguments that it wasn't assault because it could have been acid but wasn't. Thing is, the vast majority on the gender critical side aren't in favour of violence, no matter how much they might disagree with someone.
I think most of us have enough faith in our arguments that we don't feel the need to punch someone to get them to shut up.

look when words are literal violence and a request for trans women not to use the single sex spaces allocated to women is genocide, of course this is an assault.

Any woman can sympathise with Lilly being insulted while just trying to (insert normal daily activity here).

I won't presume Lilly's sexuality, but I do think many TW are shocked by the hate they get once they are no longer straight white men. Because they just never were on the receiving end of threats/insults/violence on the basis of who they fundamentally are. And it's a radical change in perspective.

And all the black/female/gay/Asian, etc onlookers are like: yeah. Well. That's just what happens. Pretty routine. Unacceptable, yet widely accepted.

“Assaulted”???

A drunk 70yo woman of colour called them a boy, said “don’t fuck with me” and “I hit hard” and this is news? ”Threatened violence” is a bit of a stretch.

No, this is a weird random person rudely interrupting a conveniently filmed lunch. And then parlayed into massive media exposure.

The woman was rude. The management apologised. Lily’s very effectively making themselves into a media presence.

We’ve talked about how there’s going to be a backlash for a long time. Mainly from a concern that it’s going to hit LGB people, but also how a lot of trans people are worried about it.

The backlash from the actions of people pushing #nodebate is not the responsibility of the people that want the debate.

Don’t blame us for the backlash. It’s not something we want. It’s not our fault.

Thank you, genuinely. I appreciate the explanation.

This. Although transwomen offend (in terms of sexual offences) at about 5x the rate of men, so 500x the rate of women. So even more reason to keep them out of single sex spaces than other men. (from the census data - https://sex-matters.org/posts/updates/what-did-we-learn-from-the-census/)

This is simply very very small beer compared to what women are subjected to daily.

You wanted to be a woman, welcome to being one. Random people feeling they can comment on you and your life, speak to you, interrupt whatever you're doing and be hateful whenever they want.

'You're a boy, right? Don't f with me 'cause honestly, I hit. I hit hard,' the woman told Contino.*

Is this the physical threat being discussed? Or was there something else?

The woman was definitely rude to the trans woman.
I would like to have seen the entire interaction, it might have answered why the woman felt the need to assert that she was not a witch, but from what was posted the woman was rude to the trans woman.