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Julia Hartley Brewer and Kellie Jay

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Thedarkestblue · 27/03/2023 19:50

Just wanted to highlight this interview, with KJK talking about New Zealand, for anyone who wants to see it.

Women’s Rights Advocate Kellie-Jay Keen “Feared For Life” After Attack by Trans Activists

Women’s rights advocate Kellie-Jay Keen says she “feared for her life” after being attacked by trans activists during protests in New Zealand.The campaigner ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su8XLdc26uo

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beastlyslumber · 27/03/2023 22:09

Links don't work for me either.

beastlyslumber · 27/03/2023 22:08

She's ace! She takes no shit.

Brendan O Neill has had her on his podcast at least once - well worth a listen for anyone who is JHB-curious.

Boiledbeetle · 27/03/2023 22:07

BreadInCaptivity · 27/03/2023 22:03

Just posted a couple of short clips below.

Is it just me or is there a problem with the links?

ArabellaScott · 27/03/2023 22:05

'Hartley-Brewer said on the radio show that it was a "very big risk" for women to be "kept in cells alongside people who are biologically men" and that "if you are physically intact as a man, you are not in a woman's prison, end of. Nothing to discuss." Guest Steve Allen responded, "if you are in a woman's prison, you should be safe from being physically attacked, by a cis or a trans woman. Everyone should be safe in prison." Hartley-Brewer responded by saying, "you're not allowed to come on my show and say a cis or a trans woman. A woman or a trans woman. I'm not a cis woman… we are women. We are biologically women. I'm not going to have that BBC claptrap on my show." When Allen offered to use the term "non-trans women" she said, "if you say that, I'm going to ask you to leave my studio. I'm absolutely serious. I'm not having it."'

BreadInCaptivity · 27/03/2023 22:03

Just posted a couple of short clips below.

BreadInCaptivity · 27/03/2023 22:02

Some short but sweet greatest hits of JHB.

turbonerd · 27/03/2023 21:28

Thanks 💐

MalagaNights · 27/03/2023 21:26

turbonerd · 27/03/2023 21:15

Can someone outline the views that might be «repugnant»?
I watched the video where she insisted a rapist-gender was called a he by nearly shouting it several times: he, he, he!

It was magnificent.

Will watch this when my little troll has fallen asleep.

She's against illegal immigration.
She thinks net zero is a pointless con.
She was vocal against lockdowns and vaccine mandates.
She doesn't think men can become women

I imagine these are her repugnant views.
Depending where you stand.

Soubriquet · 27/03/2023 21:23

I thought that was a good interview. She did talk over KJK a lot but I suppose that’s how it is

universityhelp · 27/03/2023 21:18

I don't watch JHB that often, but whenever I've seen her I've agreed with her 100%. Don't really understand what could be so controversial about her views.

Boiledbeetle · 27/03/2023 21:17

beastlyslumber · 27/03/2023 20:37

I love JHB and I don't care who knows it! She gets called a lot of nasty names but it's all misogynist bullshit of the same type that gets thrown at KJK. I'm sick of seeing non-lefty women being monstered.

I agree,. I listen to her when she's doing these interviews and she takes no prisoners. And I'm too old and too angry to be told that i can't listen to someone because waffle waffle waffle!

turbonerd · 27/03/2023 21:15

Can someone outline the views that might be «repugnant»?
I watched the video where she insisted a rapist-gender was called a he by nearly shouting it several times: he, he, he!

It was magnificent.

Will watch this when my little troll has fallen asleep.

EmmaEmerald · 27/03/2023 21:12

FOJN · 27/03/2023 21:08

You can agree with her on this issue, but still consider that her views on other issues are repugnant.

She holds some pretty mainstream right of center views. I think it's good to disagree but when we're using words like "repugnant" for mainstream views where do we go when we encounter extremist views.

Tbh this is a factor in how we got here
expressing the view that woman = adult human female became "repugnant".

EndlessTea · 27/03/2023 21:11

I love both JHB and KJK.

Fabulous women. They’ve got guts.

RoyalCorgi · 27/03/2023 21:09

She is very very direct. She has skewered several Labour politicians by simply asking them: "What is a woman?" Last week she made mincemeat of Ellie Reeves, the Labour spokesperson on justice, as a PP mentioned.

I also have fond memories of her destroying Lily Madigan (remember Lily?) a few years ago, which probably should have been reported to the NSPCC for cruelty to children.

FOJN · 27/03/2023 21:08

You can agree with her on this issue, but still consider that her views on other issues are repugnant.

She holds some pretty mainstream right of center views. I think it's good to disagree but when we're using words like "repugnant" for mainstream views where do we go when we encounter extremist views.

Fenlandia · 27/03/2023 21:08

Another fangirl here. Her views on regular issues aren't my cup of tea but on this issue, she is worth a thousand mealy-mouthed lefty pundits and politicians who think women can have penises.

Tallisker · 27/03/2023 21:07

I agree Crinkly that JHB talks a bit much, but then we get to look at KJK's fabulous eye makeup and try and work out if we could copy it 🤣

I do like a no-shits-given approach when it comes to this topic.

Verite1 · 27/03/2023 21:03

I don’t think it is fair to suggest that her views are “invalidated” because she is not left wing enough. You can agree with her on this issue, but still consider that her views on other issues are repugnant. That’s not invalidation - it’s just accepting that people can have different views on different issues!

MalagaNights · 27/03/2023 21:03

She also had Sharon Davies on this morning.

Thanked her for the sacrifices she'd made on challenging men in women's sports and told her she thought she was a hero.

SallyLockheart · 27/03/2023 20:58

She does, however, do some fabulous eye rolls whenever a trans ally spouts complete garbage!

BreadInCaptivity · 27/03/2023 20:58

beastlyslumber · 27/03/2023 20:37

I love JHB and I don't care who knows it! She gets called a lot of nasty names but it's all misogynist bullshit of the same type that gets thrown at KJK. I'm sick of seeing non-lefty women being monstered.

I agree.

It's very frustrating to see some women's views on this matter invalidated because their political views aren't "pure" left wing enough.

Self id is an issue for all women, irrespective of your wider political views.

CrinklyLoveStick · 27/03/2023 20:57

I love JHB but she speaks FAR more than her interviewees and it’s so frustrating.

EmmaEmerald · 27/03/2023 20:57

I think KJK is amazing, even more so now, it sounds like they really wanted to stop her speaking at all

I didn't think my opinion of the NZ govt could get any lower - but now it's tunnelling down to whatever lies beneath the basement. Nothing will be done about any of those perpetrators, will it? Especially wonder about the 70 year old being punched in the face.

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