Moira Deeming avoids expulsion from Aus Victoria Liberal Party - powerful thread

If that is her official defence it's shocking, the whole case against her was guilt by association. She has felt it necessary to explain allegations made against women she got together with after the event. Apart from attending is there anything about what she actually did which was unacceptable.

Such a ridiculous little man.

There has been alot of discussion about CPAC as 'far right'. I find this to be rather bizarre.

From the people that I have seen associated with it, it has people from different political parties. Moira mentions it here in her response":

"CPAC a well-known and reputable organisation which is chaired by Warren Mundine AO, former Australian Labor Party national president"

There is also at least one other past ALP ex-leader who has spoken at one of their conferences.

For anyone wishing to read Moira's response, I believe this is it. I have not checked if it is official.

https://twitter.com/s_deery/status/1640269299372941313?s=20

It's not really a game changer because as a previous poster said, the Liberal Party are down the toilet anyway.

It's all a bit sad because it's clear that Deeming (a conservative) stands for women's rights whereas the ruling Labor Party (supposedly progressive) is captured by the TRAs.

Nicola Sturgeon’s downfall was barely mentioned in any European mainstream press.
In my country we had not a whisper at all. Which is unusual - at least there is a comment if the news is about a head of state.
But for Sturgeon: nothing.

Don’t know if it was mentioned in the Americas or in Oceania, or anywhere else for that matter.
I rather suspect not, because it would Open such a can of worms letting the Isla Bryson case out in the public.

Some of the local papers are suggesting the suspension was only because she accepted "errors" eg:

She condemned the past use by Keen-Minshull of a Barbie wearing a Nazi uniform on her social media as a “poor distasteful joke”, and also of Jones using a “Nazi analogy”. But otherwise, Deeming said allegations either woman was linked to far-right extremism were false.

“I admit that with the benefit of hindsight of what has occurred, that my participation may have been an error of judgment that resulted in unneeded scrutiny,” she said.

“When I attended the event I made sure I did not speak as a Liberal, in fact I did not even mention I was a Liberal.

More here https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/moira-deeming-survives-ballot-to-expel-her-but-cops-nine-month-suspension-20230326-p5cvfg.html

Also if anyone is on facebook you can age a message of support or at least click like!

https://www.facebook.com/MoiraDeemingMP/

(Off topic but I have the way the forum board has again been meddled with so that now huge immages appear based on last link posted. It really interrupts the flow of conversation - IMO. You can get rid of the oversize images by clicking on the dustbin)

Sorry I've not got a clue about this. What exactly was she suspended for? I know she spoke at one of the rallies was she not allowed to do that? Or was it what she said at the rally?

I suppose it will leak out sooner or later if there is any truth to it.

It's a terrible state of affairs when you don't feel you can trust anything you read and wonder what is true and what is an attempt to smear a political opponent.

I have to confess, even if I was living back in Australia, I was not very interested in state politics outside of NSW & QLD.

I don't know about it FOJN. I have heard the rumours though, just like many people.

Helleofabore

I saw somewhere that Dan Andrews is under pressure due to allegations of corruption and that Moira Deemings was just away of him deflecting attention and putting Pesutto in the spotlight, do you know anything about that?

Oh, I know fuck all about Australian politics but that sounds like a game changer. Can she, would she appeal against a suspension? Has she been suspended? If so, on what ground? Defamatory? I hope she sues.

From someone who has worked with Pesutto, he is very 'left leaning' and not a moderate.

I agree with this tweet by Rachel Wong. I do hope the presenter is right a Pesutto is gone by Christmas, what a disgraceful way to treat a colleague.

twitter.com/RachaelWongAus/status/1640296141358252032?s=20

Mmhmm I don’t have much respect for peta credlin but you don’t need to listen to her to know this was a leadership failure. Some sympathy for pesutto, but he screwed up. For context the libs in australia aka Tories have been going down the toilet and are pretty much unelectable in most states. In wa they barely exist except as a punchline, in Victoria no one scores points off the labour premier daniel andrews, in nsw the swings against them in a number of seats as they lost govt on the weekend were eye popping double digits, and the leader of the federal party is too unpopular to have risked making things worse by supporting the state elections by campaigning! So pesutto is a moderate /moderate seeming lib trying to build a credible party. But now he just seems for one weak and for two like he’s forgotten what liberal values are.

Here's a YouTube version:

Watching these series of political disasters piling up, I do wonder how Nicola Sturgeon was not sufficiently instructive.

For those who don't know who Peta Credlin is, she was Tony Abbott's chief of staff. Someone could correct me, but I believe that her husband was high up in the national level of the Liberal Party, maybe he still is.

She is a lawyer as well with a focus on constitutional law.

I don't necessarily agree with her on some issues, but on this one she has been very solid and very clear.

She was very clear in interviewing the Victorian opposition leader about this and has done a segment on the 'evidence' that he supposedly used.

Commenting so I remember to watch later