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Boycott New Zealand

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Clymene · 26/03/2023 16:48

Let's hit the state sanctioned violence against women where it hurts - in their pockets.

Off the top of my head:

Wine - Oyster Bay, Villa Maria, the Ned, Wairau Cove, Brancott Eatate, Cloudy Bay
Lamb - check the label to make sure it's British
Manuka honey and ordinary honey - M&S stock quite a few.
Wool
Allbirds shoes
Canterbury clothing.

Have I missed anything?

Also write to the PM: [email protected]
Minister for trade: [email protected]

And tell them you're boycotting and why. There's no point if they don't know you're doing it!

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namitynamechange · 30/03/2023 08:04

Thank you for confirming. Well, there certainly isn't any video evidence of those men being challenged that I can find. There is however masses of video evidence of women and old men being attacked, screamed at, headbutted, having liquid thrown on them. So I shall make my judgements based on that. And I think the photos you describe of young men wandering about making Nazi salutes unhindered tell their own story.

landOFconfusion · 30/03/2023 07:58

namitynamechange · 30/03/2023 07:53

@landOFconfusion "A couple of goons from the neo-Nazi group Action Zealandiaturned up in skull masks.

There are pictures of them floating around the protest throwing Nazi salutes at the counter-protestors"

And were any of the brave counter-protesters (who were there to fight against fascism apparently) motivated to stop them or were they too busy punching old ladies in the face and screaming at lesbians? Let me guess....

You would need to ask people who were there. I live over one thousand miles away in a separate island to the recent protests.

namitynamechange · 30/03/2023 07:53

@landOFconfusion "A couple of goons from the neo-Nazi group Action Zealandiaturned up in skull masks.

There are pictures of them floating around the protest throwing Nazi salutes at the counter-protestors"

And were any of the brave counter-protesters (who were there to fight against fascism apparently) motivated to stop them or were they too busy punching old ladies in the face and screaming at lesbians? Let me guess....

landOFconfusion · 30/03/2023 07:49

GrammarTeacher · 29/03/2023 07:52

KJK's team prevented women from speaking against her. Only one side is aloud to speak it seems. You continually insist you speak for all women on here. You don't. Those of us who disagree with you aren't stupid. We disagree.
No mention of the assaults on women of colour by KJK's side nor the support of Nazi.

A couple of goons from the neo-Nazi group Action Zealandia turned up in skull masks.

There are pictures of them floating around the protest throwing Nazi salutes at the counter-protestors.

Mommymoments · 30/03/2023 07:42

Clymene · 26/03/2023 16:48

Let's hit the state sanctioned violence against women where it hurts - in their pockets.

Off the top of my head:

Wine - Oyster Bay, Villa Maria, the Ned, Wairau Cove, Brancott Eatate, Cloudy Bay
Lamb - check the label to make sure it's British
Manuka honey and ordinary honey - M&S stock quite a few.
Wool
Allbirds shoes
Canterbury clothing.

Have I missed anything?

Also write to the PM: [email protected]
Minister for trade: [email protected]

And tell them you're boycotting and why. There's no point if they don't know you're doing it!

All the Nz Marlborough Sauvignon blancs😩 nooo but I'll do it!

SinnerBoy · 30/03/2023 07:18

It's passing strange, isn't it? It almost as if they were mistaken and it didn't happen at all, or something.

RosaBonheur · 30/03/2023 07:17

SinnerBoy · 30/03/2023 02:00

GrammarTeacher · Yesterday 07:52

No mention of the assaults on women of colour by KJK's side nor the support of Nazi.

I haven't seen or heard anything about KJK supporters assaulting women of colour; could you post some links to reports / footage of such, please?

I've been asking for this for days, but none of the people attempting to "both sides" this incident appear to be able to provide any.

TiedUpWithABlackVelvetBand · 30/03/2023 03:52

Even auto-correct can’t bear the misogyny.

Glad you’re so proud of it @Bowlofporridge 😞

TiedUpWithABlackVelvetBand · 30/03/2023 03:51

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Brokendaughter · 30/03/2023 03:05

Bowlofporridge · 27/03/2023 01:56

NZ woman here. Currently feel very safe, thank you very much, as do all my female friends. Yes, we are urban, educated women, but from all sides of the political spectrum. Feel very proud that we stood by our transgender sisters, and can't help but laugh at how much this has caused the UK to froth: why are you so concerned about us? Focus on your own country, and the climate of fear in which you are living. We are absolutely fine, and proud to be leading the world in female rights again. Mumsnet does not represent the way the huge majority of my friends feel, and Posey Parker most definitely does not speak for me: the coloniser arrogance...

boycott away!

What on earth are you proud of?

Some ill-kempt bloke punching an old lady repeatedly in the face?
Screaming red faced men threatening a middle aged woman who just wants to talk with some other people who feel like her?
Breaking a womans foot because she might have wanted to hear women speak?

That is not something urban, educated women condone.

Every single one of that hateful mob went out of their way to turn up somewhere just to attack a small group of women.

The majority of women in the world do not condone men punching old ladies in the face.
If that's what you think represents the best New Zealand has to offer, it's a country that has some really big problems.

sashh · 30/03/2023 02:54

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Not sure why you are laughing.

I have no idea whether lesbians hate men or not, it's not something I discuss. I suppose it is the old tactic of derail the thread. Quite odd and childish. A bit like a 4 year old running into a room and shouting 'Bum', but with a child it can be funny.

SinnerBoy · 30/03/2023 02:00

GrammarTeacher · Yesterday 07:52

No mention of the assaults on women of colour by KJK's side nor the support of Nazi.

I haven't seen or heard anything about KJK supporters assaulting women of colour; could you post some links to reports / footage of such, please?

Relaxingtime · 30/03/2023 00:36

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TiedUpWithABlackVelvetBand · 29/03/2023 15:26

Please keep writing to Chris Hipkins.

He is desperate to sweep this under the carpet.

WomanXXWorldsOriginsofMothersofAllNations · 29/03/2023 10:44

@letterwritingwarrior excellent letter Brew

I won’t hold my breath on you getting a reply, but I hope it makes him at least think, and maybe go and see what is actually happening under his watch.

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 10:44

Great letter! I’ll be writing quite a few 😂

ArabellaScott · 29/03/2023 10:33

Maybe next time all the violent, aggressive men - right or left wing, whatever their grievances - wearing masks and black block can all go and have a right good barney elsewhere, and LET WOMEN SPEAK.

That would be nice.

letterwritingwarrior · 29/03/2023 10:32

Name changed for privacy reasons. I am a PP in this thread.

Just sent the following email:

Dear Mr Hipkins,

I was horrified to read, in the international media over the last few days, reports of the assaults carried out on Kellie-Jay Keen and other women's rights protesters, by trans activists in Auckland.

In case you are unaware of the context, Kellie-Jay Keen is a British women's rights campaigner who holds events under the name "Let Women Speak". These events are low budget and low tech, consisting mainly of a patch of grass and a microphone. Any woman who has something to say about women's rights is permitted to do so. Kellie-Jay Keen was invited to New Zealand by a group of Maori women to host this event.

Similar events have taken place in other countries, namely in the UK but also in Australia. Due to the focus on single sex spaces for women, which are currently under threat all over the western world where transgender males are allowed to self ID into such spaces, these events typically attract counter-protests from trans activists. Women exercising their right to peaceful protest have been verbally, physically and in some cases sexually assaulted by violent trans activists, for example, in Bristol and Brighton in the UK, in Melbourne, and now in Auckland.

What has shocked me to the core about the events in Auckland is the fact that, after multiple women were assaulted by trans activists simply for exercising their right to speak about an issue which is having serious consequences for women everywhere, and after Kellie-Jay Keen herself was forced to flee your country due to fears for her own safety, New Zealand politicians spoke out, praising the trans activist community for a job well done.

Kellie-Jay Keen and many other women worldwide have legitimate concerns about the presence of transgender males, not all of whom are harmless or benign, in women's changing rooms, rape crisis groups, prisons and sporting categories. Even if their concerns were not legitimate, which in my view they are, they should still be entitled to exercise their right to peaceful free speech without being threatened and assaulted by people who are supposedly on the "right side of history", and who are aggressively demanding that women "be kind" to them.

This is not the first time that New Zealand has shown itself to be completely tone deaf on this issue. Many of us were disgusted about the smug, self-congratulatory speeches emanating from New Zealand about being the first country in the world to send a trans woman to compete as a woman at the Olympics. Most people around the world saw this for what it was: a mediocre, privileged, white male weightlifter from a rich country, who had failed to excel at men's weight lifting, stealing the opportunity of a lifetime for a young, elite, female athlete to represent her country at the Olympics.

This is not progressive. This is misogyny. If you think that New Zealand is painting itself in a positive light on this issue, you are very much mistaken.

I will be boycotting New Zealand products until further notice, and encouraging others to do the same.

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 10:28

There may or may not have been Nazis present, I don't know.

No reports or evidence from Auckland and in Melbourne they were entirely separate to the let women speak event. I believe Romper Stomper was set in Melbourne

WomanXXWorldsOriginsofMothersofAllNations · 29/03/2023 10:22

People keep talking about nazis being at JKJ events (and trying to conflate ‘being at’ with ‘invited to’) but when I first saw the men, dressed in black, with black masks on at the Melbourne event, I actually thought they were the TRAs Black Pampers, then when they saluted, I thought f’ing ‘ell, that’s kicking it up a notch or 10.

Maybe the Nazis got the idea from the Black Pampers 🤔 or were pissed off and thought the Pampers were taking the piss.

Anyhoo just me musing, and all to say the violent people (usually that’s men, but there seem to be fair few women in the crowds) that turn up to fight each other, the TRAs, the Pampers, the fash, and anti fash, and the just want to shout at women misogynists are feck all to do with women who just want to speak.

I guess all the men win, as women are yet again drowned out.

TiedUpWithABlackVelvetBand · 29/03/2023 09:57

PatientZorro · 29/03/2023 06:55

and? The only time I’ve been sexually assaulted was in Sydney.

And….?

Isn’t it obvious? This shit happens anywhere and everywhere.

sashh · 29/03/2023 09:00

GrammarTeacher · 29/03/2023 07:52

KJK's team prevented women from speaking against her. Only one side is aloud to speak it seems. You continually insist you speak for all women on here. You don't. Those of us who disagree with you aren't stupid. We disagree.
No mention of the assaults on women of colour by KJK's side nor the support of Nazi.

No mention of the price of fish either.

WickedSerious · 29/03/2023 08:27

GrammarTeacher · 29/03/2023 07:52

KJK's team prevented women from speaking against her. Only one side is aloud to speak it seems. You continually insist you speak for all women on here. You don't. Those of us who disagree with you aren't stupid. We disagree.
No mention of the assaults on women of colour by KJK's side nor the support of Nazi.

I can see that you've been very busy researching this issue,thank you for taking the time to post today.