Active discussions

Please or to access all these features

Talk
Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Feminism: chat

Original poster

Boycott New Zealand

694 replies

Clymene · 26/03/2023 16:48

Let's hit the state sanctioned violence against women where it hurts - in their pockets.

Off the top of my head:

Wine - Oyster Bay, Villa Maria, the Ned, Wairau Cove, Brancott Eatate, Cloudy Bay
Lamb - check the label to make sure it's British
Manuka honey and ordinary honey - M&S stock quite a few.
Wool
Allbirds shoes
Canterbury clothing.

Have I missed anything?

Also write to the PM: [email protected]
Minister for trade: [email protected]

And tell them you're boycotting and why. There's no point if they don't know you're doing it!

OP posts:
Thread gallery
37
TiedUpWithABlackVelvetBand · 27/03/2023 04:21

You are missing something, @GADDay

Lesbians are being called ‘sexual racists’ by transwomen, for not being willing to include people with penises in their dating pool.

Are you OK with that?

Lesbian groups that won’t include men are being threatened and stopped by transwomen.

Are you OK with that?

GADDay · 27/03/2023 04:19

sashh · 27/03/2023 04:11

Women in Afghanistan are allowed to talk to each other.

Show quote history

I must be missing something. Are you seriously trying to say that Lesbian Women can't talk to one another in NZ.

😕 😕 😕 😕

GADDay · 27/03/2023 04:17

TiedUpWithABlackVelvetBand · 27/03/2023 04:10

@GADDay - do you care about the L in LGBT?

To be honest. Not specifically.

I am a live and let live woman/gal/person. I don't give a shit how people identify.

Light and shade. It's a thing.

sashh · 27/03/2023 04:11

GADDay · 27/03/2023 04:04

Are you ok? New Zealand is as bad as Afghanistan.

A bit hysterical, perhaps?

Show quote history

Women in Afghanistan are allowed to talk to each other.

TiedUpWithABlackVelvetBand · 27/03/2023 04:10

@GADDay - do you care about the L in LGBT?

GADDay · 27/03/2023 04:09

The vitriol on this thread is awful. @Bowlofporridge I concur.

Feminists don't have to be arseholes.

JeremyBearamy · 27/03/2023 04:09

Clymene · 26/03/2023 22:46

Because the police let men assault women. They were also going to deny a woman an entry visa, searched her on entry, cancelled her hotel room and left aggressive messages under her hotel room door.

New Zealand is not a safe country for women. I feel really sorry for the women who are stuck there. It's a horrendous dangerous country. Not much bette than Afghanistan.

Show quote history

Your comparison with Afghanistan is clearly ridiculous and isn't doing your argument any favours.

GADDay · 27/03/2023 04:04

Clymene · 26/03/2023 22:46

Because the police let men assault women. They were also going to deny a woman an entry visa, searched her on entry, cancelled her hotel room and left aggressive messages under her hotel room door.

New Zealand is not a safe country for women. I feel really sorry for the women who are stuck there. It's a horrendous dangerous country. Not much bette than Afghanistan.

Show quote history

Are you ok? New Zealand is as bad as Afghanistan.

A bit hysterical, perhaps?

QueenCamilla · 27/03/2023 04:02

@Bowlofporridge

The orchestra is still playing. But I'd take a life-vest and swim over now, whilst there's a chance yet to save one's face. Don't want to be the last eejit on the Titanic, surely?

Ndd135632 · 27/03/2023 03:58

Bowlofporridge · 27/03/2023 02:30

Shame on you for making the logical leap that I support violence against women. The biggest perpetrators of violence in NZ are male partners against their partners. I do not support any violence against women, be they cis or trans.

Also, lesbians do not have the right to meet without males?? What on earth are you on about? That's just absolutely ridiculous…

How sad to be so scared. I am happy to live in a city that has spoken out loudly for inclusivity, rather than prejudice.

Feel free to speak your piece on any forum, NZ or otherwise. But don’t you proclaim that you speak for all women, or that anyone who doesn’t support your views advocates violence.

Inclusive of who? Men? Yep we see you. And it’s ugly for women in NZ.

Ndd135632 · 27/03/2023 03:56

Bowlofporridge · 27/03/2023 01:56

NZ woman here. Currently feel very safe, thank you very much, as do all my female friends. Yes, we are urban, educated women, but from all sides of the political spectrum. Feel very proud that we stood by our transgender sisters, and can't help but laugh at how much this has caused the UK to froth: why are you so concerned about us? Focus on your own country, and the climate of fear in which you are living. We are absolutely fine, and proud to be leading the world in female rights again. Mumsnet does not represent the way the huge majority of my friends feel, and Posey Parker most definitely does not speak for me: the coloniser arrogance...

boycott away!

Surely you mean transgender brothers. You stood by the men. Aa they assaulted women. We can see you from the U.K. and it ain’t pretty.

merrymelodies · 27/03/2023 03:53

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

TiedUpWithABlackVelvetBand · 27/03/2023 03:50

@Bowlofporridge - you’re obviously a keen rainbow community supporter. I am, too. So - some questions for you.

Do you include the L in LGBT?

Do you think it's OK that lesbians are being called 'sexual racists' because they don't want to include people with penises in their dating pool? Google the Lesbian Project. Google cotton ceiling.

Do you think 'gender identity' over-rides 'sex'? Because if so, there can be no such thing as same-sex attraction.

How is that not the very definition of homophobia?

Transactivism is latently homophobic. Not OK.

To everyone else - please don’t boycott Hawke’s Bay wine - they need ALL the support they can get, and they were not part of the protests.

Please, please do write to Chris Hipkins, though - I absolutely urge you to do that.

And to whoever said NZ is akin to Afghanistan, you can calm down. I am appalled by the protests, but let’s be realistic.

SeaWitchly · 27/03/2023 03:48

Whatever Bowlofporridge. You might actually learn something if you listened to what Posie Parker has to say rather than 'drowning her out'. And you are delusional if you believe there is no culture of fear for women in NZ but yes, you do you and back off with shutting other women up from speaking about their concerns. By the way, I don't think 'liberal' means what you think it does, the dictionary definition is literally being willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own and being open to new ideas'. Not shutting them down or drowning them out you complete plonker.

sashh · 27/03/2023 03:40

Bowlofporridge · 27/03/2023 03:20

”A disgrace to women”?? Have you read any of my posts? I don’t stand with violence at all, but if Posey Parker wants to go to a public venue in NZ to exercise her rights to free speech, then people in NZ (including women) can exercise their rights back to drown her out.

You’re getting so worked up. We are safe and happy here. I’m not scared to let my young children walk home from school by themselves, go to public loos by themselves, take themselves to the local park or go to changing rooms by themselves. You have a culture of fear in the UK that we have no desire for here. Thank god for tolerance - which is less than what you’ve shown, with your vitriolic posts in response to mine.

No use arguing with a brick wall: I’m out. Off to enjoy my liberal country 😊

Ka kite koutou - or not, seeing as you’re boycotting Aotearoa 😆

But an elderly Kiwi woman was repeatedly punched in the face, how is that allowing her free speech?

What is it with the cocky attitude of so many Kiwis?

You do not live in paradise.

You have no idea about life in the UK.

Bowlofporridge · 27/03/2023 03:20

”A disgrace to women”?? Have you read any of my posts? I don’t stand with violence at all, but if Posey Parker wants to go to a public venue in NZ to exercise her rights to free speech, then people in NZ (including women) can exercise their rights back to drown her out.

You’re getting so worked up. We are safe and happy here. I’m not scared to let my young children walk home from school by themselves, go to public loos by themselves, take themselves to the local park or go to changing rooms by themselves. You have a culture of fear in the UK that we have no desire for here. Thank god for tolerance - which is less than what you’ve shown, with your vitriolic posts in response to mine.

No use arguing with a brick wall: I’m out. Off to enjoy my liberal country 😊

Ka kite koutou - or not, seeing as you’re boycotting Aotearoa 😆

Fooksticks · 27/03/2023 03:12

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

sashh · 27/03/2023 03:11

Sorry I don't know why I put a quote there.

Anyway what are the rates of VAWAG in NZ?

What do you think about prostitution being legal? Brothels offering '1 hour of anything you want"?

Are you OK with an elderly woman being punched repeatedly in the face?

SeaWitchly · 27/03/2023 03:09

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

sashh · 27/03/2023 03:09

Bowlofporridge · 27/03/2023 01:56

NZ woman here. Currently feel very safe, thank you very much, as do all my female friends. Yes, we are urban, educated women, but from all sides of the political spectrum. Feel very proud that we stood by our transgender sisters, and can't help but laugh at how much this has caused the UK to froth: why are you so concerned about us? Focus on your own country, and the climate of fear in which you are living. We are absolutely fine, and proud to be leading the world in female rights again. Mumsnet does not represent the way the huge majority of my friends feel, and Posey Parker most definitely does not speak for me: the coloniser arrogance...

boycott away!

If you shop online don't get lamb from Sainsbury's they can't pick British, it's, "British or NZ".

Check fruits, at this time of year there isn't much fruit produced here.

https://www.mfat.govt.nz/en/trade/free-trade-agreements/free-trade-agreements-concluded-but-not-in-force/new-zealand-united-kingdom-free-trade-agreement/key-facts-on-new-zealand-united-kingdom-trade/#:~:text=New%20Zealand's%20main%20goods%20exports,total%20of%20NZ%241.5%20billion.

Key facts on New Zealand-United Kingdom trade

The United Kingdom is New Zealand’s 7th largest trading partner.

https://www.mfat.govt.nz/en/trade/free-trade-agreements/free-trade-agreements-concluded-but-not-in-force/new-zealand-united-kingdom-free-trade-agreement/key-facts-on-new-zealand-united-kingdom-trade#:~:text=New%20Zealand's%20main%20goods%20exports,total%20of%20NZ%241.5%20billion.

AngeloMysterioso · 27/03/2023 03:00

We are absolutely fine, and proud to be leading the world in female rights again.

How’s that now??

Feel free to speak your piece on any forum, NZ or otherwise.

Unless your piece concerns the rights of women and children to be safely and fairly separated from males, in which case a violent, screaming horde of misogynists will turn up to throw things at you and threaten you with assault, rape and death.

Bowlofporridge · 27/03/2023 02:30

Shame on you for making the logical leap that I support violence against women. The biggest perpetrators of violence in NZ are male partners against their partners. I do not support any violence against women, be they cis or trans.

Also, lesbians do not have the right to meet without males?? What on earth are you on about? That's just absolutely ridiculous…

How sad to be so scared. I am happy to live in a city that has spoken out loudly for inclusivity, rather than prejudice.

Feel free to speak your piece on any forum, NZ or otherwise. But don’t you proclaim that you speak for all women, or that anyone who doesn’t support your views advocates violence.

JustAMum2023 · 27/03/2023 02:08

@Bowlofporridge , I am also an educated urban kiwi woman. NZ is a horrifically dangerous place for women, especially those who are not white middle class women. Lesbians do not have the right to meet up without men in this country. Women do not have the right to same sex spaces, sports a
or education. We do not even have the right to speak on NZ platforms. We have to rely on British or American platforms. Shame on you for supporting violence against women.

FordCreek · 27/03/2023 02:02

FourTeaFallOut · 26/03/2023 19:55

My dh is a Kiwi. Not sure how far we are supposed to lean in on this boycott? I could just put his merino shit in the dryer by way of compromise?

Or you could get him to do his own domestic chores! Hmm

He does know how to work a dryer, right?