Boycott New Zealand

I can attack whoever I like on this board - after all, attacking all and sundry (i.e. all those who don't fit into your rabid feminist coven) is a specialty of those on these threads.

You sound like a broken record. Boycott away - do you really believe that everyone on this thread had plans to visit NZ in the near future and has now changed their mind. You are deluded. As I said, where would they find the time, surely frothing is a full time occupation.

There’s no such thing as cis. Just thought I’d mention that.

My apologies @Whaeanui, I was drawing a comparison with the violence and hatred of women that we witnessed on our screens, I had not considered the cultural implications that you described above and I’m sorry to have offended.

@sashh well we have a Maori King but it’s not who pakeha call their king, no, that would be Charles. The women who first sung the anthem in Maori still cries today because of the way NZ reacted, with pure unadulterated hate.

I don't think the "It's just like Afghanistan" hyperbole is helpful, because it conceals the true risk to women in NZ. Yes, it's true that women in Kabul and a few Afghani cities had freedoms in the 70s that they have since lost, but that's because those freedoms had never been embedded in the country as a whole.

NZ is not going to fall to a Taliban-like theocracy. It's far more insidious than that. You can see from some of the comments from Kiwis on here that they are unaware that single-sex spaces and sports have already been removed from women there. Given the media bias, that's not surprising but it's worrying. We have already seen this in liberal states in the US, like Oregon. Women did not see what was happening until it was too late.

Our transgender sisters😹

that person in the ill- fitting pink dress who pours liquids on people who don’t share ( insert relevant pronoun) views? You are proud to stand beside that?

Blimey.

I tell you what always bothered me about those dumb LOTR & hobbit movies… orcs were the parts Maori got and any good roles by kiwis were pakeha. Plus of course Hobbits law sucks and Peter Jackson is an interfering rich white dude who bought the Wellington mayoral election so he could prevent Maori from selling land for housing when he wants it for a museum about his dumb movies. I have always boycotted the Hobbit because of hobbits law, now I boycott anything touched by Jackson. He’s a jerk.

Hey I held back, I was going to mention the flag too. And they still have a king don't they? Oh and two national anthems. Remind me what they are.

@Whaeanui thank you for your contributions.

😂😂 I love this comment. Who indeed would have guessed that NZ really is full of Orcs. They’ve completely proved it with the gross scenes we’ve been treated to. Orcs indeed.

Is anyone else amused by us being called 'colonisers'? In English? By people in the south pacific?

@sashh well I’m Maori so not amusing for me but I get your point! They are clueless to their own part in this. Still. Like… do they realise they’ve directly benefitted? That the land wasn’t given back and all the poor Maori she sees are a direct result of that. It’s so nice her life in NZ is so perfect while Maori have the worst health stats and live in cars…

And this thread only makes me even more ashamed.

The only people who need to be ashamed are the TRA's who perpetrated violence, the lying media who fanned the flames and the people defending both.

That bit was amazing. Er, yes - the people still over here in Europe are definitely the colonisers, and not the the people of European descent in the place that was colonised.

Yes. Let’s separate all the chores to make our point!

FYI the elderly lady we saw punched in the face twice hasn’t been located by organisers yet so I hope she is ok. One of the stewards has a broken foot. But sure, there wasn’t any violence…

@sashh oh don’t spoil it, it’s funny to see them trying to use that one. It’s almost as if they have no concept whatsoever of their own history.

@TiedUpWithABlackVelvetBand solidarity sister! Kia Kaha! I know, she shamed herself calling women and Maori women here colonisers!

Is anyone else amused by us being called 'colonisers'? In English? By people in the south pacific?

Whaeanui thankyou for posting. And I and no idea the statistics were that bad. That's shocking. A point where male violence towards women has become so normalised other women aren't recognising it?

So sort of boycotting so long as it's not an inconvenience?

Never in my middle-aged life have I been embarrassed to be Kiwi. I have only ever been proud to be.

This weekend, that changed.

And this thread only makes me even more ashamed.

Please know that not all of us are male-rights activists. Please know that many of us do have our eyes open down here, and can see what is going on.

We want to speak about this.

This is not going away. Sunlight is pouring into this issue - one that didn’t even register on many people’s radars until now. It’s only going to get louder and louder. Women won’t be silenced.

The world thinks NZ is some embarrassing, shrieky, violent, mob-mentality little backwater. Completely shameful.

FML - the ‘coloniser’ comment is beyond embarrassing - said by the descendent of a coloniser…. 😔

P.S @Whaeanui - thank you for your contributions to this, and other, threads in recent days

These photos are what the world is seeing we are..

And you genuinely wonder why we don’t want male-bodied people in our single-sex spaces….?

The irony of your post! So KJK was literally made to fear for her life. And you say women shouldn't be fearful? The minimisation of events here, the crowd didn't try to 'drown her out', they tried to lynch her. You seem ok with that which is worrying.

And you don't realise that KJK was invited to NZ to give a platform for NZ women to exercise their freedom of speech?

Whether you agree or not with what is being said, as a woman surely you'd hope that in the 21st century women can speak out and not be fearful of being shut down or attacked by men?

You mention NZ has domestic abuse, some of the highest figures in a progressive country. Male violence is a problem. You didn't see how the weekend legitimated that in public and some men were getting off on it?

The Witch trial in NZ shows the utter mysogyny you have in your country. You might not realise that and it sounds like it's been very much internalised by women like you. I hope you work it out one day.

In the meantime please reflect on the irony when you say it's sad women are fearful.

@oakleaffy gosh that’s so sad and I am sorry to hear. I read the lovely tributes to both men and it’s just terribly sad.

Yes I never reported anything after trying to report DV & then teacher abuse when young and getting nowhere. I would never report an assault now either. It’s just not worth it.

Feeling largely the same way about NZ and their products and people as I do about Russia et al right now.

Let's face it, though, that isn't going to happen, is it? Boycotting is never going to become a mass movement.

He stayed here as a younger lad.. in son's bedroom. Very polite! {Craig}
Son and other UK friends went for a Memorial event for Craig last weekend.

Craig's face was familiar to me..He still looked the same in his late 30's .I was deeply saddened.
It looks devastating what has happened over there, after Landslides.

Regarding violence to Women, It is so rarely reported to police, no matter where in the World.

Mum {Adopted mum} had an attempted rape in the South of France when walking alone behind the holiday home. {Esterel region, quite rocky and remote}

She was pushed to the ground, lost her shoes and in desperation bit her attacker on his shoulder.
He amazingly left her alone, and rode off on his motorbike.

She didn't report it, despite Dad and us wanting her to...She said ''In France women just don't walk alone in the countryside...the police won't understand''

Best Wishes to you.