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Boycott New Zealand

694 replies

Clymene · 26/03/2023 16:48

Let's hit the state sanctioned violence against women where it hurts - in their pockets.

Off the top of my head:

Wine - Oyster Bay, Villa Maria, the Ned, Wairau Cove, Brancott Eatate, Cloudy Bay
Lamb - check the label to make sure it's British
Manuka honey and ordinary honey - M&S stock quite a few.
Wool
Allbirds shoes
Canterbury clothing.

Have I missed anything?

Also write to the PM: [email protected]
Minister for trade: [email protected]

And tell them you're boycotting and why. There's no point if they don't know you're doing it!

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Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 09:38

if a protest is against you, you call them a mob.

No. They violently attacked women. One 70 year old was punched twice in the face, the video was posted here. One of the organisers has a broken foot. The organisers said they feared for their life after Posie left, when the police also left and the mob descended on them. You are ignoring these women, many Polynesian.

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 09:36

Posie Parker is an extreme right wing ideologist

I have just made it crystal clear she was invited by Maori women, long time Māori rights activists. You are making a post which is both factually untrue and racist. You’re also not following talk guidelines.

TrombonesAreNotBones · 27/03/2023 09:36

Alondra · 27/03/2023 09:33

I have no idea where you are getting your "baying mob" from. In freedom of speech, people have the right to protest as loudly as they want, which is what happened in New Zealand.

The problem with people like you is that you think "freedom of speech" and "protests" only apply to your ideology and if a protest is against you, you call them a mob.

Posie Parker is an extreme right wing ideologist, and New Zealand has given her the marching orders.

If you, or people like you, don't like it, fuck to you.

I see you declined to address the problematic videos of an older woman being punched in the face; funny, that.

MarshaBradyo · 27/03/2023 09:35

Alondra · 27/03/2023 09:33

I have no idea where you are getting your "baying mob" from. In freedom of speech, people have the right to protest as loudly as they want, which is what happened in New Zealand.

The problem with people like you is that you think "freedom of speech" and "protests" only apply to your ideology and if a protest is against you, you call them a mob.

Posie Parker is an extreme right wing ideologist, and New Zealand has given her the marching orders.

If you, or people like you, don't like it, fuck to you.

Does as ‘loudly as they want’ include punching 70 year olds in the face?

Have you watched the footage?

You appear to me missing the reality of the event

It’s all out there for people to see, take a look

NotHavingIt · 27/03/2023 09:35

Bowlofporridge · 27/03/2023 01:56

NZ woman here. Currently feel very safe, thank you very much, as do all my female friends. Yes, we are urban, educated women, but from all sides of the political spectrum. Feel very proud that we stood by our transgender sisters, and can't help but laugh at how much this has caused the UK to froth: why are you so concerned about us? Focus on your own country, and the climate of fear in which you are living. We are absolutely fine, and proud to be leading the world in female rights again. Mumsnet does not represent the way the huge majority of my friends feel, and Posey Parker most definitely does not speak for me: the coloniser arrogance...

boycott away!

I think you must be living in a very small bubble. I suspect that most people in New Zealand have, as yet, little awareness of this issue, which was the case here too - until the women's grassroots movement really got going.

You don't need to worry about us living in a "climate of fear" - we're not! The real battle for the rights of females is actually being instigated here - and one day you may well thank your British sisters for their determination.

If young men punching elderly women full on in the face, and displaying violence against women who have gathered to speak about their experience is what you would consider progressive - there's not a lot that can be done for you, I suggest

From what I can gather New Zealand is way behind the times on this issue - not in the vanguard - and is still living with a manipulated and oppressive press which simply does not give voice to alternative views. I also hear that the " be kind" self righteous politics that characterised Jacinda Ardern, has left the country with a few social issues to resolve, certainly around increased criminality and violence - which was quite evident when looking at the scenes from Auckland.

TrombonesAreNotBones · 27/03/2023 09:34

I was going to say I cannot believe that violence against women is given the okay by posters, but actually I can.

Whaeanui this whole affair must be so painful for you, I am so sorry.

Alondra · 27/03/2023 09:33

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 27/03/2023 09:24

A baying mob, tearing down barricades and punching an older woman in the face? That's a novel interpretation of 'freedom of speech'.

I have no idea where you are getting your "baying mob" from. In freedom of speech, people have the right to protest as loudly as they want, which is what happened in New Zealand.

The problem with people like you is that you think "freedom of speech" and "protests" only apply to your ideology and if a protest is against you, you call them a mob.

Posie Parker is an extreme right wing ideologist, and New Zealand has given her the marching orders.

If you, or people like you, don't like it, fuck to you.

nilsmousehammer · 27/03/2023 09:32

May just make their delicious wines and food cheaper for the rest of us who are inclusive of trans and gender diverse people.

While battering the ever loving fuck out of those vile people who think inclusion should be for diverse female people too....

Tell you what, why don't we have a country where you call all lovingly and inclusively scream and punch and spit and threaten death and rape all day to your hearts' content, and another country where women can have equality in peace and quiet?

IMustDoMoreExercise · 27/03/2023 09:31

NZ are also cosying up to China (well they were when Jacinder was PM).

MarshaBradyo · 27/03/2023 09:30

Alondra · 27/03/2023 09:20

By the way, the woman that keeps talking about "freedom of speech" in her meetings, kept yelling for police protection when freedom of speech turned against her.

Fucking coward.

So freedom of speech is punching people in the face and mob rule to make someone fear they might be killed

yeh sounds great, no idea why you’d need protection from that

sashh · 27/03/2023 09:29

@Whaeanui Would Maori women come tot he UK to hear her?

I'm thinking of some sort of crowd funding, it doesn't need to be the UK it could be a third country, somewhere safe.

FOJN · 27/03/2023 09:29

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 09:22

I don’t want to out myself or my friends but yes, I can assure you amongst Maori in government and outside it, she is known as an ineffective incompetent racist. She visited male sex offenders to talk about why they wanted to be in the female prisons instead.

Good grief. I don't think she's understood her brief, unless violence prevention means something different to what I thought it did. It's 2023, anything is possible.

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 27/03/2023 09:28

Alondra
By the way, the woman that keeps talking about "freedom of speech" in her meetings, kept yelling for police protection when freedom of speech turned against her.

Fucking coward.

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To be fair I'd do the same if a man clearly wanted to hurt me. Unless violence is ok against an individual with a different biological and fact based view than one's own?

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 09:28

Just to reiterate, she was invited by a group of Maori women. They’ve been crying and huddled together all weekend. Scared, alone and embarrassed. Fuck anyone that says they don’t represent NZ. They fucking do.

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 09:26

How is posting sequentially on a board speaking over anyone? You do know that "speaking over" doesn't mean "disagreeing with", don't you?

When someone not from nz and not indigenous, says ‘ nz women don’t want her’ etc they’re speaking over because MAORI WOMEN ORGANISED IT AND INVITED HER and they’re still crying btw because they feel it’s their fault she was subject to violence and they’re humiliated that their Kuia were punched and none got to speak. So when Maori say, we want her to come, we invited her, we want to speak… and someone relies, no that’s not what nz women want… that’s speaking over them. Especially when you don’t even acknowledge them on this board.

FOJN · 27/03/2023 09:25

Alondra · 27/03/2023 09:20

By the way, the woman that keeps talking about "freedom of speech" in her meetings, kept yelling for police protection when freedom of speech turned against her.

Fucking coward.

She didn't need police protection from words.

If women speaking about their rights is enough to make some NZ men resort to violence then you have bigger problems than KJK.

TiedUpWithABlackVelvetBand · 27/03/2023 09:25

MishyJDI · 27/03/2023 09:14

Ha absolutely! I don't think NZ actually want people with gender critical views and ill-tolerance to visit. Boycotting has limited effect. May just make their delicious wines and food cheaper for the rest of us who are inclusive of trans and gender diverse people.

You don’t speak for me, or anyone I know who cares about women and girls.

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 27/03/2023 09:24

I'm not on Twatter et al so I've probably missed it but I'm assuming the trans community has publicly named and shamed that disgusting piece of waste who beat that old lady up?

Or is that sort of hate ok?

A quick Google didn't show anything up for me but did show up something similar at Speakers Corner Hyde Park in 2017 when a 60 year old woman was also battered.

So it seems your trans sisters and their TRA mates have form for this.

But yes, GC women are the ones society should be frightened of.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 27/03/2023 09:24

Alondra · 27/03/2023 09:20

By the way, the woman that keeps talking about "freedom of speech" in her meetings, kept yelling for police protection when freedom of speech turned against her.

Fucking coward.

A baying mob, tearing down barricades and punching an older woman in the face? That's a novel interpretation of 'freedom of speech'.

Alondra · 27/03/2023 09:24

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 09:19

@Alondra so you’ve just endorsed violence against a woman on the feminism board.

No. People supporting this hateful woman are endorsing the extreme right politics she preaches. Her "anti trans" movement is a marketing ploy to sell her brand of politics.

She doesn't give a shit about women.

Rosula · 27/03/2023 09:23

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 09:16

Ha absolutely! I don't think NZ actually want people with gender critical views and ill-tolerance to visit. Boycotting has limited effect. May just make their delicious wines and food cheaper for the rest of us who are inclusive of trans and gender diverse people.

oh can you stop speaking over a Maori woman on this board and acting like you know about nz women? Mana Wahine actually asked her to come, Maori women. So stop being racist and speaking over us.

How is posting sequentially on a board speaking over anyone? You do know that "speaking over" doesn't mean "disagreeing with", don't you?

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 09:22

I don’t want to out myself or my friends but yes, I can assure you amongst Maori in government and outside it, she is known as an ineffective incompetent racist. She visited male sex offenders to talk about why they wanted to be in the female prisons instead.

FOJN · 27/03/2023 09:22

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Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Interested enough to regurgitate the lies your news media is telling you but not interested enough to find out anything about her?

sashh · 27/03/2023 09:22

@MistyFrequencies

I understand your point but it has been used to keep people oppressed. It was used about South Africa and apartheid, American cotton and slavery.

Years ago I was sharing a house and we boycotted all French produce due to Nuclear testing in the pacific.

Afterwards we had to make a decision to continue as we had discovered cheese and wine from other places that was just as good. In the end we decided we would buy French produce again because they had stopped testing so it had achieved its goal.

MarshaBradyo · 27/03/2023 09:21

Alondra · 27/03/2023 09:20

By the way, the woman that keeps talking about "freedom of speech" in her meetings, kept yelling for police protection when freedom of speech turned against her.

Fucking coward.

Are you for 70 year olds being repeatedly punched in the face as you don’t seem to notice that part.

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