Boycott New Zealand

I was due to go and visit family and friends in New Zealand in late November this year. I'd planned to stay for at least six weeks. I've told them I won't be coming — that being GC I wouldn't feel safe. There's been silence.

The Spin off isn’t worth clicking on. They wouldn’t exist without government money

Our media are desperate to portray the protest as - what was it? ‘Joyful’, ‘life affirming’ and ‘full of love’….?

Honestly sickening. We all saw the signs - these boots stomp TERFs. Get out of our county cunt. Suck my dick.

We also a saw the footage.

But no. We’re being gaslit into believing, as ever, the Emperor has a lovely new set of clothes….

https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/26-03-2023/an-alternative-view-of-the-angry-protest-crowd?utm_source=spinoff-share-button&utm_medium=spinoff-app

We've reached the 'and if it was that bad you deserved it' point of the Narcissist's Prayer.

Yes we have

We've reached the 'and if it was that bad you deserved it' point of the Narcissist's Prayer.

It’s so bad to see. The footage and voices show what happened but so many trying to hide it dismiss it.

The thing to keep remembering is that they are not the Third Reich, they have no plans to annexe Poland or raze villages.

This is a bunch of neo Nazis. Essentially cos playing twats who quite like the uniform, the image and the justification to be racist thugs. There's a lot of this kind of 'put a uniform on and enjoy the feelz and the violence' going around at the moment.

There's also a lot of slinging of big words to try and get everyone to join in the Group Hate of the unrighteous, but it's all starting to wear a bit thin after the reality appeared on live footage across the world this weekend.

Right.

I'm going to need to spend a few minutes pondering whether it's better to be worse behaved than real Nazis, or worse behaved than imaginary Nazis that you made up.

It's really shocking that people are focusing on the presence of "Nazis" at the event

That was Melbourne. In fact, footage shows the Nazis in Melbourne were not at posies event, its crystal clear they’re separate and standing well away.

After the women speaking on the radio programme yesterday made it clear that the media are frantically spinning the facts and even showing carefully edited footage - largely to cover the arses of the media, police and government having behaved appallingly to the point of NZ people questioning if they intentionally set it up - I would suspect this is more media lies to frantically try and control their damaged PR.

The women speaking on the radio programme talked about their sense of absolute betrayal that the media, police and government lied. And are continuing to lie.

Already some activist has rushed onto a thread to try to discredit the radio programme those women spoke on to make it 'not be true'.

This is movement that operates on powerful people identifying their preferred reality, and then bullying and gaslighting everyone else into joining it.

It is misogyny to support that violence though

Which we see from a few on the thread

That link doesn't work for me unfortunately.

It's really shocking that people are focusing on the presence of "Nazis" at the event and glossing over the fact that it was the trans activists who assaulted women (with zero consequences) and not the Nazis.

Some self awareness would be good.

This is not a good look for New Zealand.

I thought this would be interesting

On the subject of transw sexo offenders and the UK ONS & MoJ figures and percentages, could the figures be combined with those of other countries and analysed in a meta analysis?

I'm far from being a statistician.

*tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · Yesterday 12:27

Forcing strong opinions on others will never end well. Let's try to be a little more respectful of others, and engage in more mature conversation.

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What I and many other posters love about MN is that in a one of the few spaces where GC women...

Drat! It didn't copy the entire text...

I've had some posts deleted and a warning from MN HQ. The posts were critical of PP writing that KJK is a Nazi adjacent person, who hasn't denounced them.

I need to rant less and to be careful how I write.

That’s the problem - most Kiwis seemingly aren’t appalled by it, least of all our politicians and media.

I feel pretty impotent right now.

The utter arrogance for someone who probably came here once for a two-week holiday in 2014, telling us all about ourselves and and our culture.

Really offensive, and I say this as someone who’s embarrassed to be a Kiwi right now.

If most people were appalled by the violence why have they not mentioned it? Why haven’t your politicians come out and spoken against it? Why didn’t the police arrest anyone? Why didn’t your news agencies report on it? Because if most people are appalled they are keeping VERY quiet about it.

You’re appalled by the violence but saved your vitriol and attack for women writing words on this board.

It’s not hate to not tolerate violence against women

Fascinating and disturbing as a woman in NZ to read such a nasty and hateful thread about NZers. Judging by the majority of the comments most don't even live here, yet seem to think they know alot about it. ...and btw, the bigots in NZ are usually of the old, white types AND many issues are rooted in colonialism so maybe have a bit of a think about where that originated from oh great British Empire 🙄
Such hateful comments under the guise of "feminism", seems more like this thread is just people who like to hate for any reason. Fancy a whole thread about how dumb NZ is, when most were appalled with the violence at this protest. Utterly batshit.

loud and obnoxious? That’s a little rude.

Good that you know me and my countrywomen better than we do ourselves @TheMatriarchy

Have you been to New Zealand?

It’s been a long time since I ‘kowtowed to the men’. And I have never been ‘loud and obnoxious’.

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