Speakers Corner 26 March

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Here's the video of Ali trying to engage the TRAs at Speaker's Corner yesterday. I've only watched a short segment. Will be watching the rest tomorrow at work!

Yes please to the link raspberry if you can find it :)

That's precisely why we go. The public space is our space as much as anyones. The idea that women should meet secretly and not speak in public is outrageous. We can't defend our rights by hiding.

This. I'm so glad there was a meeting yesterday, because it shows that the suppression of women's rights to meet and speak in public isn't just a problem abroad which can be handwaved away. The programmes last night and today talking about what happened in NZ were also talking about this.

I watched that. He is furious at them, isn't he? When they call him fascist, he points that he's a Marxist and how is grandfather mutilated himself so he wouldn't have to fight in Hitler's war.

What's obvious from this footage and the rave footage and pretty much every footage is they they have no counter except Fascist, Nazi etc.

What is really interesting is the footage from Ali (the Muslim guy who is another regular at Speakers Corner). I haven't watched all of it but there's just noise, but no calling a Muslim man a Nazi or a fascist. He asks them " If you can't drink till you're 18, how can children change/know their genders?"

I'll see if I can get a link.

Page 3 | Speakers Corner 26 March - a record | Mumsnet Just patching this in here, for anyone who can't listen or finds it difficult to listen because of the noise. Here are the speeches in written form.

Has anyone seen the footage of the speaker's corner regular having a pop at the TRAs / anti-women activists because their demonstration is not in the spirit of speakers corner? He also has a go at the police for not doing anything about their bullying tactics. The footage is really worth a watch especially the last 10 minutes ish where he approaches many of the regulars to see what they made of the disruption by the AWAs / TRAs.

Also this is apparently a follow up from later where the free speech regulars are discussing how they can support the feminist the next occasion.

https://twitter.com/actual_woman369/status/1640241127780409344

Oh bugger it
DONT have

Of course, there's a right to criticise speech, as Mishy mentioned, but not much of that going on. Drowning out speech and violent actions are not criticisms. It's almost like the protesters have valid, coherent criticisms.

Another very useful video. They all show the exact same thing, this one particularly illustrates people really quite.... high.... on their behaviour.

And the police doing fuck all. Even when people are being followed and bullied directly in front of them. They have absolutely humiliated themselves this weekend on multiple films.

Apologies if this has already been linked. Mr Menno's account: twitter.com/MrMennoTweets/status/1640097694738702340?t=RQm5Cb_d3BbeB-EhLdam4Q&s=19.

That's precisely why we go. The public space is our space as much as anyones. The idea that women should meet secretly and not speak in public is outrageous. We can't defend our rights by hiding.

Gandhi. Sorry. Not nearly enough coffee yet.

I agree Beetle. I also agree with the guy yesterday talking about it all from the POV of gay men, who talked about Ghandi's action to just keep on peacefully turning up and doing it and letting the behaviour roll in full public view.

There are plenty of ticket-only meetings where the venue isn’t released until the last minute, & even then the thugs normally find out & come to yell at us, but the whole point of these ones is that they’re open to everyone. You don’t have to be ‘in the know’ or vetted, you can just come along.

And yes. It’s scary. But it’s bloody worth it.

we need to go underground more

No! Why should women have to do that? It's 2023.

Why should the meeting time and place have to be hidden?

The more the mobs of incoherent, not understanding the words they are shouting, turn up to drown out groupss of women who just want to talk the quicker the world realises that this is fucking insane!

may I ask what might be a daft question,
why does, Let women speak, advertise the date of the meetings so readily, that the nutjobs in TRA and all the others get the chance to turn up so quickly.
we need to go underground more, i would love to go to a meeting but I am frankly scared

Mishy, it’s a Let Women Speak event. Any woman can speak. Even men can speak if there is time once the women have finished. Any tra supporting activist can offer a coherent argument, I for one would be delighted to hear it.
Many women can’t get to the rallies because, unlike many TRA’s we have responsibilities in our families and communities. Many women won’t want to go because they are, quite reasonably, scared of being surrounded and attacked by males. Remember? They are bigger and stronger than most women, even if they choose to wear a dress (and I wholeheartedly support their right to make that choice)
Look at the footage then genuinely explain why any woman would feel safe lying vulnerable in a hospital bed with one of these nutters next to her.
You think this behaviour demonstrates a win. I think it demonstrates EXACTLY why women need single-sex spaces

The only question is; are Women going to let them get away with inserting their woman hating ideology in to the laws of the land.

Yes, that is very much what our friend and his ilk mean.

Exactly that.

Because what I'm taking from that is 'women who want any space or resource away from men deserve to be attacked and terrorised'.

Is that what you're standing behind?

Seriously?

I mean there is a LOT of 'if she hadn't opened her mouth I wouldn't have had to batter her, officer' going on across the boards and the world wide press today, but come on. Is THAT really what you mean?

You think it's totally unacceptable that female homosexuals should be attacked and punished like this for wanting one solitary group that is just for female homosexuals where male lesbians have every other group?

And that it's acceptable to mob and blockade and terrorise to 'oppose views'?

Listening to DJ Lippy reading that HC speech was horrifying in that so many decades later it's more relevant now than it actually was at the time.

And that bloody song, it makes me cry every time I hear it. And they did it twice!! I join in at home as well. My neighbours must think I'm nuts.

Next time everyone go ing should take megaphone. Id love to hear all the women singing it through megaphones whilst the children shouting at them look on!

Time to recognise ,Mishy , that the L part of the pretend LGBTI+ “community is sick and tired and left a while back, those that didn’t will be joining us when they realise just how bad it has got. Please tell what this lovely rainbow coalition, so keen on shouting down women, has ever done for lesbians.