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Speakers Corner 26 March

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Rainonthehorizon · 26/03/2023 14:04

Following on from the last couple of days in Australia, New Zealand and London yesterday, it looks like TRAs surrounded this weeks #Letwomenspeak gathering but I think the police have now moved them on, so hopefully everyone is safe.

https://twitter.com/francesweetman/status/1639961354491641856

https://twitter.com/LilyLilyMaynard/status/1639964915174604800

https://twitter.com/francesweetman/status/1639964933663105026

https://twitter.com/FreyaVanadiss/status/1639963053906165760

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Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 22:18

Just seen on twitter:

Standing For Women is pleased to announce an Easter Sunday Posie Parker #LetWomanSpeak at Speakers Corner, 9th April 1pm.

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 09:51

The Met definitely isn’t fit for purpose, as the recent report stated. They need a complete overhaul. It’s a mess. Apparently every week for at least the next year they’ll have met officers up on charges of domestic or sexual abuse of some kind. That’s how many serving officers were abusers of women. It’s so gross.

EdithStourton · 29/03/2023 09:32

I'm sadly coming to the conclusion that the Met (and certain other police forces) are not fit for purpose.

How is it okay to threaten and heckle like that? When a woman elsewhere in the country has been arrested for stickering?

Police inaction here is not a funding issue. It's a lack of guts issue. It's a been-captured-by-Stonewall issue.

Fucking useless.

NancyDrawed · 29/03/2023 08:17

Looking at the footage of and by the pissed off Hyde Park regulars, it struck me that we always said that men wouldn't get involved until this issue affected them.

So moving back to Speaker's Corner from the Reformer's Tree and the mob following and therefore disrupting speeches there is a really good move, because lo and behold, the men are now being affected and want something done about it. Annoying, but not surprising.

FOJN · 29/03/2023 07:56

Claire Fox raising the issue of policing, at this event, in the HoL.

twitter.com/JWMW_2023/status/1640765812423229458?s=20

Whaeanui · 28/03/2023 22:05

that guy is great, his singing was perfect. They didn’t know what to do with him

raspberrywine · 28/03/2023 21:54

*Nazi Black Man.

I loved all the signs saying "No to Racism". Seriously, you can't make this shit up.

raspberrywine · 28/03/2023 21:49

ArabellaScott · 28/03/2023 21:45

I thought that it looked like her, raspberrywine.

Huh!

Well it's either her or they make identikit women who spout nonsense like Fascist Baby, Racist Black Man.

ArabellaScott · 28/03/2023 21:45

I thought that it looked like her, raspberrywine.

raspberrywine · 28/03/2023 21:44

ArabellaScott · 28/03/2023 20:10

For the sake of completeness: another person called a 'nazi' by trans activists for apparently no reason at all other than he disagrees with them.

https://twitter.com/jenkteach/status/1640190225010814977?s=46&t=SPorwN-mokktL467rcZ57g

Who is that guy? "Guardian reader, social worker". 😂 lLoved the banner too (Groom dogs, not children).

Also, why do all the activists look similar? She reminded me of Fascist Baby Woman.

Signalbox · 28/03/2023 21:28

The Hatun Tash case mentioned by the Speaker's Corner regular is interesting. Hatun Tash is a Christian who enraged a load of islamists at SC and was twice arrested by police who clearly thought is was easier to deal with one small women rather than a mob of bullying Islamists. They ended up having to pay her £10,000 and apologise. She was also stabbed in the face 2 months after her arrest by a person who has never been brought to justice. Another example of the Met failing a woman whilst pandering to a mob of angry men.

In view of what happened to her it seems irresponsible in the extreme to allow the AWAs to kettle in women's rights campaigners when they clearly pose a threat to those women.

Daily Mail Article...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11338749/Christian-preacher-paid-10-000-Met-Police-arrested-asked-help.html

Christian Today Article...
https://www.christiantoday.com/article/met.apologises.for.wrongful.arrests.of.christian.evangelist/139371.htm

Footage of the Met's response / arrest...

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WickedSerious · 28/03/2023 20:18

ArabellaScott · 28/03/2023 20:10

For the sake of completeness: another person called a 'nazi' by trans activists for apparently no reason at all other than he disagrees with them.

https://twitter.com/jenkteach/status/1640190225010814977?s=46&t=SPorwN-mokktL467rcZ57g

Nazis!

Nazis everywhere you look!

Boiledbeetle · 28/03/2023 20:15

ArabellaScott · 28/03/2023 20:10

For the sake of completeness: another person called a 'nazi' by trans activists for apparently no reason at all other than he disagrees with them.

https://twitter.com/jenkteach/status/1640190225010814977?s=46&t=SPorwN-mokktL467rcZ57g

I will admit I have watched this so so many times. I just can't help myself!

I love him..erm I mean the video. I love the video.

ArabellaScott · 28/03/2023 20:10

For the sake of completeness: another person called a 'nazi' by trans activists for apparently no reason at all other than he disagrees with them.

https://twitter.com/jenkteach/status/1640190225010814977?s=46&t=SPorwN-mokktL467rcZ57g

https://twitter.com/jenkteach/status/1640190225010814977?s=46&t=SPorwN-mokktL467rcZ57g

Mollyollydolly · 28/03/2023 18:46

People are finally waking up to the fact these protestors are radicalised individuals. They should be on watch lists, they should be monitored by the police. Instead they are protected by the Police, politicians and the state. There should be no sacred castes whatever or whoever you are.

NecessaryScene · 28/03/2023 16:19

Ali's opening words on his video sum it all up:

I don't understand you guys - why are you guys not talking?

And I liked his indignation in the other one:

They're radical! They're extremists! They were calling me nazis!

nilsmousehammer · 28/03/2023 16:15

I saw an article yesterday by some livid man explaining that this was a rotten, lousy trick of the right wing: to turn up and evilly do nothing so that righteous left people were cruelly forced to scream insanely, lose all grip and batter them like raving maniacs.

Or something.

SerafinasGoose · 28/03/2023 15:16

tootiredtobother · 27/03/2023 10:48

may I ask what might be a daft question,
why does, Let women speak, advertise the date of the meetings so readily, that the nutjobs in TRA and all the others get the chance to turn up so quickly.
we need to go underground more, i would love to go to a meeting but I am frankly scared

It's a clever tactic. She's letting them hang themselves. They are demonstrating her point beautifully for her: all she has to do is show up.

raspberrywine · 28/03/2023 08:33

@Signalbox Well, I was proven wrong. They do call him a Nazi. There are some gems in this video.

Yes, Geoffrey Marshmallow apologists going after a Muslim woman pissed off a whole new set of people.

Kinsters · 28/03/2023 08:05

I'm sure it has been said many times but I find the DARVO so disturbing. Front and centre in some of the videos is that sign "trans lives are more important than hurt feelings". Erm no, I'm pretty sure it goes "women's safety is more important than men's hurt feeling" (clearly it's not to the police but we can dream!)

I would be interested to know what uninvested passersby made of the scene. Sorry maybe it is covered in one of the videos, I have not had time to watch them all.

Boiledbeetle · 28/03/2023 00:47

Or

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Boiledbeetle · 28/03/2023 00:47

They are either

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Jarnsaxa · 28/03/2023 00:37

Why is one of them shouting "trans liberation, no assimilation?"

I thought assimilation was the point?
What are they on about?

Fukuraptor · 27/03/2023 23:42

It's really interesting seeing the reactions of the other speakers and their footage and interactions with the mob.

The drowning out and chanting of lies is the complete antithesis of an exchange of ideas and debate.

"Protect Trans Kids" says the placard, but they seem oblivious as to who they need to be protected from. It isn't the women speaking who threaten them.

"Fascists" they cry, but who is it trying to drown out others and make them submit?

Signalbox · 27/03/2023 21:31

raspberrywine · 27/03/2023 20:40

@Signalbox

Here's the video of Ali trying to engage the TRAs at Speaker's Corner yesterday. I've only watched a short segment. Will be watching the rest tomorrow at work!

9_

Thanks for sharing the link raspberry. That footage is comedy gold 😂 I think the AWAs are seriously pissing off all levels of society at this point. Ali Dawah was aware of the woman (sorry can’t remember her name) who was monstered and threatened with violence for calling out Jeffrey Marsh. I think they’re going to become seriously unstuck at some point.