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Standing for Women - NZ tour discussion. (To prevent further derailing of the thread for centring the women)

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Helleofabore · 25/03/2023 07:53

Let’s move the general discussion about the New Zealand ‘Let Women Speak’ tour out of the thread set up to centre the women speaking at the Australian and New Zealand tours.

This was the live feed.

https://www.youtube.com/live/eDuy2Kx2HlI?feature=share

The event was over run by violent trans activists. Not only did they use the usual intimidation tactics, but also threw substances at Kellie Jay, the women and the security.

Before you continue to YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/live/eDuy2Kx2HlI?feature=share

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Happylittlechicken · 25/03/2023 20:03

Hate is insidious because it is so seductive. It corrupts everything it touches.

I know right @landOFconfusion it leads to rape threats, death threats, assault, bullying of women, misogynistic behaviour, bomb threats, mobs refusing to let women speak. Have you thought about seeking therapy for your hate issues regarding women? I’ve heard it can help….

nilsmousehammer · 25/03/2023 20:01

Actually frankly, if having a problem with women being raped and excluded is 'my heart being gripped by darkness....'

Bring on the dark side.

nilsmousehammer · 25/03/2023 20:00

Please do explain how wanting equality of access and inclusion for women is hate? How is the desire for equality 'darkness gripping the hearts of women'?

And how is this not drama worthy of Mr Murdstone and other Victorian religious nuts?

MissMissive · 25/03/2023 19:52

landOFconfusion · 25/03/2023 09:27

My contribution has always been clear and unwavering - because I’m old enough to have seen what happens when darkness grips the hearts and minds of people who should know better.

Hate is insidious because it is so seductive. It corrupts everything it touches.

Never a truer word spoken. All you need now is a mirror.

nilsmousehammer · 25/03/2023 19:44

I think he'll find that no one was asking men to accept exclusion and rape.

MandyMotherOfBrian · 25/03/2023 19:40

Tillytrotter67 · 25/03/2023 18:48

OMG, that thread led me to an oldish tweet by Willy Bragg that I’ve never had the misfortune to see before, that basically (I paraphrase) ‘Women only won their rights at the expense of men’. Wow. I mean I did already know he was ever so slightly thick, but still surprising to see it writ large, by his own hand.

TheGodS · 25/03/2023 18:58

SmartHome · 25/03/2023 12:58

Is a home else feeling inspired to be at the Speakers Corner Let Women Speak event at Speakers Corner in London on the 30th April now?

I have never attended one one of the events up to now. I don't really have anyone to go with as I am not openly GC due to a sensitive family situation and wouldn't take my own DC who are young teens, so if anyone wants company and strength in number please do PM me and let me know.

Sorry, this is what I was responding to.

TheGodS · 25/03/2023 18:54

Even if you go alone, we are a welcoming bunch. You'll find and make connections in no time.

ArabellaScott · 25/03/2023 18:47

Whaeanui · 25/03/2023 18:42

Yes. I only just saw it and thought, oh god what will the comments be and was pleasantly surprised.

Well, if the footage gets shown people see what's going on.

MarshaBradyo · 25/03/2023 18:42

It does look horrific.

And women didn’t get to just speak.

Terrifying really

Whaeanui · 25/03/2023 18:42

Yes. I only just saw it and thought, oh god what will the comments be and was pleasantly surprised.

ArabellaScott · 25/03/2023 18:41

Whaeanui · 25/03/2023 18:18

This is on The Heralds YouTube, they’ve opened the comments which they don’t normally and it’s pretty glorious

Wow. Those comments are quite something.

Bring the sunlight.

Whaeanui · 25/03/2023 18:29

Their headline is offensive. She was assaulted. Not ‘juiced’. Bastards

Boiledbeetle · 25/03/2023 18:25

Fuck! @Whaeanui Every time i see this from a different angle it gets more horrifying. Don't bloody blame her coming home after that. Trying to get her out and grown assed men trying to go for her, someone throwing what was hopefully water at her.

Anyone who says she deserved, caused this, should have denounced people that she actually did denounce, or in any way tries to lay the blame on KJK can get to fuck.

Backstreets · 25/03/2023 18:20

The way “down under” TRAs has smeared KJK’s character and run riot at her events has been very shocking, but not surprising. Brings to mind Tasmanian activist Jessica Hoyle who went to court to be able to hold female only events for the lesbian community in 2021 and lost.

As for the failed men who takes occasions such as this to live out their “femaleness “ by - let me check my notes - punching and abusing elderly women… it’s all honestly so pathetic and transparent. Life taught me early sad and angry men aren’t afraid of punching down, in fact they quite enjoy it, shame on society for giving them a socially sanctioned avenue to do so.

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 25/03/2023 18:15

A kindness warrior?!?!

what da fuk is one of those

im not reading the article, i have a low boredom threshold

ArabellaScott · 25/03/2023 18:05

a kindness warrior

Why does that phrase sound so chilling?

Ministry of Love, right?

LittleFingerStrength · 25/03/2023 18:03

IcakethereforeIam · 25/03/2023 17:56

Sorry, I just need to get this off my chest. I did not sleep well last night, I've been out all day and I've got to go out again quite soon and I'll be out until late. I've not had a chance to read much of this or the other threads about NZ so forgive me if I'm repeating what other posters have put.

I have zero fucking time time for the so-called purity feminists who have smeared KJK with nazi or far right. Demands to denounce them, no not like that. Evidence? Insinuation or fuck all, stuff that's been debunked countless times. I've more respect for the tras that come on these boards, even the ones who take a dump and then disappear. These 'purity' feminists made the ammunition, loaded the weapon then left it lying around for anyone to use.

I hope they're ashamed but I bet they aren't. Don't bother scolding me, your good opinion means less to me than shit on my shoes. If you had any self awareness you'd think about what you've been doing.

For fucks sake we're supposed to be on the same side.

Rant over....and out.

Your priority 'side' is yourself as a woman, their priority 'side' is not themselves, they prioritise an ideology - their political party, it is the God, they worship their God their political party first before themselves and all others, it is their opium.

IcakethereforeIam · 25/03/2023 17:56

Sorry, I just need to get this off my chest. I did not sleep well last night, I've been out all day and I've got to go out again quite soon and I'll be out until late. I've not had a chance to read much of this or the other threads about NZ so forgive me if I'm repeating what other posters have put.

I have zero fucking time time for the so-called purity feminists who have smeared KJK with nazi or far right. Demands to denounce them, no not like that. Evidence? Insinuation or fuck all, stuff that's been debunked countless times. I've more respect for the tras that come on these boards, even the ones who take a dump and then disappear. These 'purity' feminists made the ammunition, loaded the weapon then left it lying around for anyone to use.

I hope they're ashamed but I bet they aren't. Don't bother scolding me, your good opinion means less to me than shit on my shoes. If you had any self awareness you'd think about what you've been doing.

For fucks sake we're supposed to be on the same side.

Rant over....and out.

LittleFingerStrength · 25/03/2023 17:52

Women have fought so well, we can't take a punch from thousands of males, the police are what they are and many men are not impressed.

Men lifting shirts rubbing nipples in front of a 10 year old girl in public.

Society is lost. Politicians and leadership in the public/private sector failed us along with some media, looking at you so called impartial BBC.

Charles can't visit France, about a million turning out day after day there and it is not that warm yet, they had their straw that broke the camels back moment over pensions, I think it will be truth/lies for many nations.

The world is not in a good place

LittleFingerStrength · 25/03/2023 17:45

UK men are disgusted, so take heart.

FF from Triggernometry, Lawrence Fox, the Tatania McGrath chap, Zuby and many others are Tweeting.

Delphinium20 · 25/03/2023 17:43

Whaeanui · 25/03/2023 09:14

Now this poster is making completely disrespectful comments about my whanau I have reported them. Please don’t engage with someone who does this. I speak Te Reo Maori- minus the macrons because that’s not how my grandmother learnt it at Parihaka where she was raised. This person has insulted my mother and grandmother and implied they didn’t raise me properly. What a disgrace of a person. Also bear in mind, even if I didn’t speak it, it was once banned and my grandmothers generation was beaten for speaking it so any Maori with this knowledge would never weaponise their own knowledge of Te Reo to shame other Maori. This person is pakeha. That’s why they used Maori mythology to mock me. That’s why they used our language to insult another poster they knew wouldn’t understand it. You can see Jermaine Clement cry about how his grandmother was beaten for speaking Te Reo and that’s why he didn’t learn it. It’s a painful thing for Maori so bear that in mind when you read this persons disgraceful comments.

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