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Standing for Women - NZ tour discussion. (To prevent further derailing of the thread for centring the women)

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Helleofabore · 25/03/2023 07:53

Let’s move the general discussion about the New Zealand ‘Let Women Speak’ tour out of the thread set up to centre the women speaking at the Australian and New Zealand tours.

This was the live feed.

https://www.youtube.com/live/eDuy2Kx2HlI?feature=share

The event was over run by violent trans activists. Not only did they use the usual intimidation tactics, but also threw substances at Kellie Jay, the women and the security.

Before you continue to YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/live/eDuy2Kx2HlI?feature=share

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MarshaBradyo · 26/03/2023 12:52

Whaeanui · 26/03/2023 12:01

That makes me feel ill

What are people supporting

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 26/03/2023 12:35

raspberrywine · 26/03/2023 11:37

Has this been shared here yet?

About the Australian part of the tour. President of the Australian Jewish Association talking about policing, Nazi and the LWS rally.

twitter.com/australianja/status/1639869914361233408?s=46&t=JHyw9y7VhcBzaGoWvQKI0g

thank you for this, it's well worth watching

Dr David Adler is measured and eminently civilised on the subject of neo-Nazis. Someone recent posters who've been very keen on calling others Nazis would do well to watch and emulate

twitterexile · 26/03/2023 12:32

He's absolutely massive as well. Appalling.

JacquelinePot · 26/03/2023 12:30

JacquelinePot · 26/03/2023 11:58

I shared this on the other thread but it's worth sharing here, too.

The drag queen, who was interviewed at the anti-women protest, assaulted someone. The linked footage shows him smashing someone in the face with his elbow.

Stunning and brave. Just want to pee. Live and let live.

https://mobile.twitter.com/KiwiLithium/status/1639847948371759104

Sorry to duplicate across the two threads but just so no one misses this

Standing for Women - NZ tour discussion. (To prevent further derailing of the thread for centring the women)
Standing for Women - NZ tour discussion. (To prevent further derailing of the thread for centring the women)
WomanXXWorldsOriginsofMothersofAllNations · 26/03/2023 12:27

Whaeanui · 26/03/2023 12:01

Is she ok? Does anyone know?

Fucking hell - that takes me back, I’d thought I’d pretty much succeeded in blocking the violence out, but fuck if I can’t hear and feel the bones crunch, and feel the stomach churning sickness as adrenaline dumps and you try so hard to appease or move or grow small. And it’s kinda worse that there are so many people there who just ‘don’t see’ and turn away.

Ive never believed Germaine Greer more than I do today that men really hate us.

StephanieSuperpowers · 26/03/2023 12:21

twitterexile · 26/03/2023 12:19

They always manage to avoid hitting men don't they? Funny that. 🤔

Totally a coincidence. They just haven't met the right man yet.

twitterexile · 26/03/2023 12:19

They always manage to avoid hitting men don't they? Funny that. 🤔

JacquelinePot · 26/03/2023 12:18

So that's evidence of three assaults, so far? And how many arrests...?

Boiledbeetle · 26/03/2023 12:17

Whaeanui · 26/03/2023 12:01

Ah trans rights movement protesters ..so inclusive... so tolerant... so peaceful

Standing for Women - NZ tour discussion. (To prevent further derailing of the thread for centring the women)
Standing for Women - NZ tour discussion. (To prevent further derailing of the thread for centring the women)
Standing for Women - NZ tour discussion. (To prevent further derailing of the thread for centring the women)
SinnerBoy · 26/03/2023 12:14

Is that what they mean by stunning and brave?

They like to go round stunning brave pensioners?

JacquelinePot · 26/03/2023 11:58

I shared this on the other thread but it's worth sharing here, too.

The drag queen, who was interviewed at the anti-women protest, assaulted someone. The linked footage shows him smashing someone in the face with his elbow.

Stunning and brave. Just want to pee. Live and let live.

https://mobile.twitter.com/KiwiLithium/status/1639847948371759104

https://mobile.twitter.com/KiwiLithium/status/1639847948371759104

nilsmousehammer · 26/03/2023 11:46

The whole 'why do it in an open space and not a venue' thing is a bit disingenuous really. A live example was happening in London yesterday at the Lesbian Project, it's happened repeatedly in the UK.

Women choose a venue. TRAs harass, threaten and bully the venue until the venue surrenders and cancels the booking.
Women don't announce the venue until the last minute. TRAs stalk and follow to get to the venue.
If they manage to get inside the venue, TRAs outside scream and bang the windows to drown out women's voices, release smoke bombs, block all the exits, kettle women, enter the building and actively threaten them...
And the police largely look into the distance and pretend they are not there.

Yes, picking venues makes it much easier for TRAs to bully and control women, I can see why they'd much prefer it.

Whaeanui · 26/03/2023 11:39

@raspberrywine thank you I hadn’t seen that yet.

raspberrywine · 26/03/2023 11:37

Has this been shared here yet?

About the Australian part of the tour. President of the Australian Jewish Association talking about policing, Nazi and the LWS rally.

twitter.com/australianja/status/1639869914361233408?s=46&t=JHyw9y7VhcBzaGoWvQKI0g

Whaeanui · 26/03/2023 11:14

Middle class women in NZ who would never dream of getting on their knees for men for $20 thought legalising prostitution in NZ was a good idea, look what happened. Increased violence and child sex trafficking.

MarshaBradyo · 26/03/2023 11:11

am a woman in NZ, I have the view that trans issues are by no means the biggest threat to women's rights or wellbeing in this country

You are free to campaign on what you prioritise.

Women can speak on what they do and should be free from violence as silencing method.

SinnerBoy · 26/03/2023 11:08

am a woman in NZ, I have the view that trans issues are by no means the biggest threat to women's rights or wellbeing in this country...

It's worth bearing in mind that 48% of transw in prison in the UK are in for rape & other sexual offences, serious assaults against women and girls and for femicides.

That's five times the rate of the usual male population in prison, pro rata.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 26/03/2023 11:07

that is an amazing picture

KJK is very photogenic and that is a key strength for her, along with being formidably firm of purpose

humans are a shallow bunch and very visual. I predict that picture is going to see a lot of air time

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/03/2023 11:04

She does.

SinnerBoy · 26/03/2023 11:03

She still looks as glam as, even covered in tomato puree. I'm heartened to see her positive expression, too.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/03/2023 10:58

Ooh I hope JP invites her on his podcast. Rogan too.

That would give many people a fit of the vapours.

timenowplease · 26/03/2023 10:55

Queen.

beastlyslumber · 26/03/2023 07:53

Ooh I hope JP invites her on his podcast. Rogan too.

Boiledbeetle · 25/03/2023 23:57

I love that it's her new standing for women profile photo!

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