Standing for Women - NZ tour discussion. (To prevent further derailing of the thread for centring the women)

Maybe I've misjudged him and he knew exactly what he was doing.

FYI Posie will be on TalkTV with this woman tomorrow

Brilliant.

@ArabellaScott

I watch that footage and while it's horrific and shocking, it's really just not surprising to me at all.

I feel the same way, the violence is now so predictable that we would be surprised if there was none, but we retain our capacity to be shocked by it.

I struggle to see how the rabid commentators and politicians will be able to justify, or excuse hulking brutes, with or without moto cross body armour bashing little old ladies.

I suppose the scumbags will simply ignore it.

Cartoon from Rod Emmerson. It's perfect, but I think he doesn't realise why.

He didn't realise, but I think he might now...he's turned the comments to his tweet off because he didn't get the backslapping from woman hating thugs he was expecting, and also blocked people pointing out that his cartoon makes our point so beautifully, it looks like it was made by a 'terf'.

He doesn't see it, does he. Someone on twitter recommended he do a new one, only this time with a male fist.

Cartoon from Rod Emmerson. It's perfect, but I think he doesn't realise why.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/rod-emmersons-cartoons-week-of-march-20-26/25UZXEBLM5G7LBYVX2QLVIVNLU/

@Whaeanui thanks, looking forward to seeing that.

FYI Posie will be on TalkTV with this woman tomorrow

https://mobile.twitter.com/JuliaHB1/status/1639950833042300929?cxt=HHwWgoC9yYCmo8ItAAAA

Arm guards. But not for guarding his arms, I’d guess. Put those in someone’s face they will do some damage and you can still have a go at claiming ‘self defence’….”oh, I was just putting my forearms up to protect myself”.

What’s this due got on his arms

As domestic violence and the police conduct of lack of at this event has been a focus, this is a good article about the increase in domestic violence and reduction in cases going to court. There’s a lot here on the nz police, change in laws and guidance and approach to offenders. NZ now calls prisoners, ‘men in our care’. The story at the start of this resonates, I called the police as a child about family violence and they said pretty much the same thing, we can’t see any evidence, just try not to aggravate each other and stay out of each others way, merry Christmas!

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300397629/more-victims-are-reporting-family-violence-but-abusers-arent-facing-court-noone-knows-why

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Posie Parker knows who she has been dealing with. She has all the receipts. And now, so does everyone else.

Yup.

It was like Terfisaslur.com The Movie.

This is what the media and politicians and those that spouted the untrue bile have done here. They incited that crowd to think that their behaviour was on the right side of history, and was good and righteous and oh so fucking tolerant and fucking inclusive.

if us lot are on the wrong side of history then I'm quite happy to stay here because you wouldn't get me touching the other side with anybody's bargepole right now.

That.

There was that interesting post yesterday about how women who want equality with men have let their hearts fill with darkness.... <dum dum DAH! Evil chuckle...>

And I thought look, if that's the dark side, bring it on. Because the side of light is a fucking nightmare I want nothing to do with.

The past few days have really been an eye-opener for me. In my somewhat naive ignorance, I had fallen for the narrative of New Zealand being a progressive and even feminist society. But it seems it's a country with very deep problems with misogyny and male violence. It has shocked me to find that this is a country with the highest levels of domestic violence in the OECD. And it seems to be condoned by politicians and the police over there. Very scary.

I am seeing Christian women in America on Instagram sharing the Australian and NZ footage.

The UK government really has to as requested by Sex matters, speak to other governments about the safety of women travelling there, this is unacceptable.

Watching these videos had unsettled me but it all felt very familiar.

Then I remembered how i felt watching all the coverage of when the shit went down in America after Trump whipped his supporters up into a frenzy and incited them to storm the capitol by persuading them they were on the right side of history and had the moral high ground and that violence was an acceptable means to achieve their goal.

This is what the media and politicians and those that spouted the untrue bile have done here. They incited that crowd to think that their behaviour was on the right side of history, and was good and righteous and oh so fucking tolerant and fucking inclusive.

if us lot are on the wrong side of history then I'm quite happy to stay here because you wouldn't get me touching the other side with anybody's bargepole right now.

The Mob at the event can wallow in their self righteous violent trans rights euphoria of beating and assaulting women and treating them like scrum just for wanting to talk to other women about women!

But the rest of the world looks on in abject horror!

Well done!

They can't bury these videos.

We know that the anti-women hatred is widespread, and that misogyny is more common than previously imagined. But the Internet emboldens all these men, the transactivists, the incels, the MRAs and the pretend woke hypocrites, to come together in one concentrated group, using gender ideology as cover.

But there are still the vast majority of normal people, men and women, who will be absolutely aghast at this openly accepted crime.

Other countries will also be looking at this and realising that they have a huge problem on their hands in terms of gender ideology.

Plus they will see exactly who is supporting it. Towering men in masks punching pensioners is not going to encourage most politicians to talk about them in terms of equality and trans rights.

Posie Parker knows who she has been dealing with. She has all the receipts.

And now, so does everyone else.

That is so vicious!!! Totally unprovoked and smashing two punches straight into her face and another one into her shoulder before someone pulled him off!

I've seen a photo of that woman with a black eye and bruising to her face later on.

Some of the press coverage of this is sickening - "family day out" stuff - "children blowing bubbles" - "short scuffle" - "anti-trans hate" etc.

I don't think they will be able to keep it up as more videos and photos get into circulation.

Plenty of "trans allies" minimising it on Twitter but getting short shrift with their, "it's just a crowd", "she was doing all the pushing" (honestly!), etc.

Not sure if these overhead drone videos have been posted yet:

"HI-DEF: Let Women Speak Tour. Albert Park, Auckland, New Zealand. 25/iii/2023"
The crucial 16 minutes at the rotunda

Shorter clip from that video:

"Overhead view of Rainbow demonstrators attacking Posie Parker and assaulting the crowd"
2mins

It's a wonder KJK and the stewards got out alive.

The same guy has posted videos of the Destiny Church demonstration (the same day?).

Don't know what that is all about but the titles tell a story:

• Destiny Church Congregation march with Rainbow counter-demonstrators following
• Police cordon separating Destiny Church Congregation from the Rainbow counter-demonstrators (1)
• Police cordon separating Destiny Church Congregation from the Rainbow counter-demonstrators (2)
• Police escort Destiny Church Congregation

Every poster that minimised and scoffed at what women have been saying is part of this

You either support a 70 year old being punched in the face or not

What I find really worrying about this footage?

It doesn't surprise me in the least.

That is what this movement is. Genderism is woman-hatred.

I do wonder what some of the rainbow-brain-washed attendees think, when they see a man violently punch an elderly woman in the face. Do they really think 'right on, we're spreading peace and love, look at the right side of history and rejoice!'

Are they able to rationalise it? Can they really justify violent intimidation, abuse, and assault?

I guess they are - this is what all the 'throat punch a terf' and 'this boot stomps terf' and 'fuck you' and 'decapitate terf' messaging means, after all.

Somehow people have been convinced that just as men can call themselves women and somehow it magically means that they ARE women, the same men can use violent language towards women, and paint it pastel pink and blue, and somehow it really ISNT violent language because trans. And the rationale is that if a woman is a 'terf' then violence is justified.

'Othering' and dehumanisation leads to violence.

I watch that footage and while it's horrific and shocking, it's really just not surprising to me at all.