Standing for Women - NZ tour discussion. (To prevent further derailing of the thread for centring the women)

Looking at the tweets, from prominent women within the GC movement, today I'm starting to wonder if there has been a conspiracy of silence about how destructive a small group of soc fems have tried to be.

It feels like many have not expressed their disapproval before to avoid causing division and distracting attention from the main priority but the events of the last 24 hours have been beyond tolerance and forced them to speak.

I see that my posts written in Te reo have been deleted by MNHQ.

It is disappointing - and more than a little frustrating - that a discussion centred around the voices of NZ women has no room for the language of te tāngata whenua.

You can erase my words … but you can not erase me.

Asterisks around text used to be the way to bold some type, so that's probably what happened

NAZI land ( I had put asterisks after N and Z but they disappeared.)

Helleofabire
Because otherwise they really have shown the world that in New Zealand, women cannot speak words that some people disagree with.

Just now when I saw the abbreviation NZ my brain involuntarily saw NZ land

(gender -change supremecist, incel, zealot version)

Anyone else

Is a home else feeling inspired to be at the Speakers Corner Let Women Speak event at Speakers Corner in London on the 30th April now?

I have never attended one one of the events up to now. I don't really have anyone to go with as I am not openly GC due to a sensitive family situation and wouldn't take my own DC who are young teens, so if anyone wants company and strength in number please do PM me and let me know.

If anyone intentionally set out to hurt Ms Davidson that should be given proper police attention, which it will because she’s on the ‘right side’. I dislike Marama Davidson but nobody should have experienced violence there. She doesn’t share my view though. I would want proper evidence they ‘supported’ Posie first, but even then, it’s still not Posies fault.

She's a Green Party politician and transmaiden so no doubt this has been spun

Whaeanui · Today 09:14
Now this poster is making completely disrespectful comments about my whanau I have reported them. Please don’t engage with someone who does this. I speak Te Reo Maori- minus the macrons because that’s not how my grandmother learnt it at Parihaka where she was raised. This person has insulted my mother and grandmother and implied they didn’t raise me properly. What a disgrace of a person. Also bear in mind, even if I didn’t speak it, it was once banned and my grandmothers generation was beaten for speaking it so any Maori with this knowledge would never weaponise their own knowledge of Te Reo to shame other Maori. This person is pakeha. That’s why they used Maori mythology to mock me. That’s why they used our language to insult another poster they knew wouldn’t understand it. You can see Jermaine Clement cry about how his grandmother was beaten for speaking Te Reo and that’s why he didn’t learn it. It’s a painful thing for Maori so bear that in mind when you read this persons disgraceful comments.

I am sorry you have been receiving these comments on this thread.

I reported that person too.

Thank you for explaining about your language. No explanation is necessary but I am glad to have learned more about it from you.

Is KJK being blamed for that?

After KJK had left, a woman was hit by a motorcyclist at a crossing, which was part of a motorcyclist group who were supporting KJK.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/486690/marama-davidson-hit-by-motorcyclist-after-posie-parker-protest

*not reporting this.

Oh, she didn't, did she? FFS.

And Billy Bragg is a pathetic fucker.

I am so glad JKR has retweeted some of the footage. That Maya and Helen have shown support too.

I am fucking furious at what happened in NZ. Absolutely furious with our msm for reporting this.

She may as well have just typed 'she asked for it'.

Vile.

@FOJN That’s terrible but not surprising is it.

They don't know when to stop do they.

I have reported my post and asked MN to remove - thanks for the heads up

It is shocking and sickening and KJK is 100% right to point a finger at the Real Feminists for their bullying and misinformation. I hope that this will be the end of AGCL and WPUK. They need to disband and consider their aims and values before trying to organise anything in future. I know they won't do that! But I think they'll be hard pressed to find any new support after this shitshow.

Look at that first poster saying it's lies!

They're even shocking their own allies.

Fortunately the evidence is manifold.

Yes, I think this mirrors the experiences elsewhere.

There's a brief moment where violent men are emboldened by the actions of their fellow misogynists and they all surge together to scream at women. Just look at Twitter. Men absolutely bloody delighted with what's happening to women in New Zealand and Australia, and getting their two penn'orth in as quickly as possible.

It was the same on here. TRAs rushing on threads to nail the violence home.

They look for it, they're alive to it, they jump on opportunities to exploit.

But normal people do not. And when they see it, they react. And the fact that they are WTF about it, is really encouraging. The shock. The shock is what doesn't go away. And it's the feeling that generates the determination to find out more.

And, we know from experience, that that is the beginning of the end.