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Woman's hour on RSE teaching

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WarriorN · 24/03/2023 10:33

Monday's programme is on RSE in schools - they want to hear listeners thoughts about this I'm schools.

What should be covered, experiences.

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Plasmodesmata · 27/03/2023 10:53

It might be interesting to have a look at some of the resources on the TES website. This has long been a place for teachers to find lesson plans etc. that have already been done by someone else. For a long time, these were free to download, a few years ago TES introduced a system where teachers could charge for their resources. As far as I can see, nothing here is vetted in any way. There is a review system. You need a TES account to upload or download resources but it's just a matter of signing up - nothing to say you have to be a teacher.

nauticant · 27/03/2023 10:49

It took its time but we did eventually get both:
"teaching the wholly inappropriate stuff is only happening in a few places"
and
"and in any case they'll see much worse online".

2fallsfromSSA · 27/03/2023 10:49

It would be nice if they got to Tanya!

nauticant · 27/03/2023 10:48

Nuala interrupts Claire again. She's very keen to keep that one particular guest, and not to the others, on the straight and narrow.

nauticant · 27/03/2023 10:47

For example see how the WH approach is pleasing some of the audience:

The mother, Claire, after complaining she can’t get to see her child’s lessons, when asked what should be taught, said ‘I’m not an expert’. In that case, then she should leave it to the experts!

nauticant · 27/03/2023 10:46

Again, this unthinking acceptance that the more things children are told, and the earlier, the better the outcomes.

nauticant · 27/03/2023 10:44

Which is surprising because instead McGovern should be engaging with the substance: my child tells me she's been shown inappropriate materials in school and I'm prevented from checking them for myself.

2fallsfromSSA · 27/03/2023 10:42

She has been interrupted more times than either of the others.

nauticant · 27/03/2023 10:41

Nuala McGovern does seem to be in minimisation mode. The mother of a child who is skeptical about what was taught to her child is having her account caveated all over because things she's saying haven't been checked by the BBC and third parties mentioned have not had a right to reply.

ResisterRex · 27/03/2023 10:37

It's bizarre that we've seen charities whose sole purpose purports to be RSE (but usually turns out to be a vehicle for propagating Queer Theory), pop up. We don't have this for maths or English, or history or D&T. Why? Why this industry on this topic? That alone is pause for thought.

WarriorN · 27/03/2023 10:35

nauticant · 27/03/2023 10:32

Again, the tone is that if everyone means well then things are generally OK. This is not what safeguarding it about.

Exactly.

Sometimes the most well intentioned person isn't the most appropriate person to work with children.

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WarriorN · 27/03/2023 10:34

It's not just vetting outside agencies coming in and a teacher staying in the room.

It's all teachers downloading things off the internet and teaching it without knowing what they're actually delivering

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nauticant · 27/03/2023 10:32

Again, the tone is that if everyone means well then things are generally OK. This is not what safeguarding it about.

2fallsfromSSA · 27/03/2023 10:27

There are many issues in schools. It needs investment and regulation.

2fallsfromSSA · 27/03/2023 10:27

ASCL denies what is happening in schools. SSA have been highlighting concerns to them for years. The previous president of ASCL employed Equaliteach in her own Trust.

WarriorN · 27/03/2023 10:21

All teachers are out of their depth with this.

And the ones who think they are, may not be the most appropriate individuals.

So they turn to the web.

Who ever is speaking now is very good on the issues that teachers are facing.

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WarriorN · 27/03/2023 10:18

I hope it's one that they will continue to return to as it's not a one off and done topic.

Very important in the context of vagw and girls too.

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WinterTrees · 27/03/2023 10:13

Yes, this is definitely a discussion that would really benefit from Emma Barnett's hardline handling.

nauticant · 27/03/2023 10:09

Very interested to tune in to this.

I wonder whether we'll hear much of the usual:
"teaching the wholly inappropriate stuff is only happening in a few places"
"and in any case they'll see much worse online".

Shame it's not Emma Barnett presenting.

2fallsfromSSA · 27/03/2023 10:06

Thanks Warrior.

WarriorN · 27/03/2023 09:56

Bumping to highlight

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WarriorN · 27/03/2023 09:35

This is the line up - it's a big programme

Woman's hour on RSE teaching
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MrsOvertonsWindow · 27/03/2023 09:28

That's great - she's such a good speaker.

WarriorN · 27/03/2023 08:35

Excellent news @2fallsfromSSA ! I look forward to the discussion.

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2fallsfromSSA · 27/03/2023 08:17

I can confirm Tanya will be on woman's hour this morning talking about RSE in schools.