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Julia Hartley-Brewer lobs gender kryptonite at Labour justice minister

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Fenlandia · 23/03/2023 14:56

Shadow Justice Minister Ellie Reeves went on to Talk TV to promote Keir Starmer's latest policies on violence against women and girls. Julia naturally brings up the gender issue, rapists in women's prisons - how can you claim to protect women and girls when you can't define what those words mean?

As Julia says, “You cannot come on my show and talk about how Labour want to tackle violence against women and then refer to a double rapist as 'she'!”

No-one who watches the clip could be impressed by the Labour minister's response, umming, aahing, changing the subject, generally wibbling. That's what I mean by gender kryptonite - These politicians are so sure of their views that TWAW and yet as soon as sunlight is shone, they can't defend their positions at all (as Sturgeon and Varadkar found out recently) and crumple into gibbering, incoherent heaps.

https://twitter.com/TalkTV/status/1638829266291793921

https://twitter.com/TalkTV/status/1638829266291793921

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JoodyBlue · 23/03/2023 16:06

JHB was fierce there!! Great to see. And as for Ellie Reeves, well she just ignored her and carried on. It is disgusting that a statement like "you cannot call a double rapist she" is felt to be ignorable by an MP asking for our votes. I'm pretty fed up of the eyebrow raising and the stammering and the saying that it is difficult for the two sides. I suspect many many people feel the same.

InspiralCoalescenceRingdown · 23/03/2023 15:44

"Take the heat out" or "more light, less heat" would make sense if anyone who ever said it actually provided a useful contribution to the debate.

I've yet to see it.

UtopiaPlanitia · 23/03/2023 15:40

Oh, forgot to say, that watching that Labour shadow minister stutter and waffle and gulp in response to Julia HB’s comments was painful and didn’t in any way inspire confidence in the capabilities of Labour’s Shadow Cabinet team.

Rachel Reeves sputtering on the issue in a previous interview was also extremely cringey. https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/labour-mp-struggles-to-answer-if-its-transphobic-to-say-only-women-have-a-cervix/

Labour MP struggles to answer if it's 'transphobic to say only women have a cervix'

Shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves has struggled to answer a question about whether it was transphobic to say that "only women have a cervix".

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/labour-mp-struggles-to-answer-if-its-transphobic-to-say-only-women-have-a-cervix/

Lottapianos · 23/03/2023 15:35

'Btw is 'take the heat out' the new 'no debate'?'

Yes, looks like it. What a spineless bunch of cowards. I don't usually have any time for JHB but she's consistently great on this issue

ladymactíre · 23/03/2023 15:34

In Ireland none of the main political parties know what a woman is. At least you have a bit of hope

UtopiaPlanitia · 23/03/2023 15:34

As previous posters have said, politicians need to stop equivocating on the issue of women’s rights with the 'less heat, more light' nonsense. They decidedly don’t really want more light on the issues because they refuse to properly discuss the matters involved.

SmartHome · 23/03/2023 15:32

It means be quiet hysterical women and stop making my job harder. Labour have lost the plot haven't they. I continue to prepare to vote for nobody at the next GE, something I never thought I'd even consider.

RealityFan · 23/03/2023 15:29

They just don't want to hear from you pesky women. Can you just please roll over, and shut your mouths. You are SUCH pains. PLEASE shut up.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 23/03/2023 15:25

IcakethereforeIam · 23/03/2023 15:22

And the labour minister just ignored, but at least it was said. Btw is 'take the heat out' the new 'no debate'?

Yes - "take the heat out" implies hysterical menopausal women rather than rational debate about unethical medical treatment of children, dangerous removal of single sex spaces for women and illegally changing society in favour of an ideology based on male sexual fantasies and degradation of women.

porridgecake · 23/03/2023 15:24

They always talk about taking the heat out of the debate. Or say that there needs to be more light, less heat. I have no idea what this means. It is just nonsense.

IcakethereforeIam · 23/03/2023 15:22

And the labour minister just ignored, but at least it was said. Btw is 'take the heat out' the new 'no debate'?

Rightsraptor · 23/03/2023 15:18

Oh that was wonderful! JHB really laid down the law.

RealityFan · 23/03/2023 15:07

The Labour Party really is lost here. TWAW pressure from the activists, TWAW beliefs from at least half the shadow cabinet incl Rayner, Nandy, Debonnaire, Lammy, Thornberry and most of the next level down incl Butler, Lewis etc. Critical pressure from those right next to Starmer with trans identified children incl Cooper and Kinnock. An ex-Stonewall man breathing down his neck. And gender critical MPs other than Rosie Duffield literally scared of breathing a word of support for her.
One of the results is car crash interviews like this one.

Artisticpaint · 23/03/2023 14:59

I saw that on twitter, Labour really do hate women. And they can fuck right off with their patronising useless menopause policy.