They’re not Terfs they are ‘Terds’ Senator Nick McKim announces in Tasmanian Parliament

I just assumed you all knew that that’s how she appears to a lot of people? I’m not trying to persuade you of anything, it’s just my perspective

How and why are we supposed to know how she appears to other people (what other people)?

No. Not what I’m saying anyway.
KJK doesn’t ‘represent’ women, she is just one person.

Lovey. 🙄
So we've moved onto patronising as well now?
Its utterly pathetic how it quickly detoriates "debate wise" on here once there's more than one dissenting voice
So far we've had " dont like creme eggs!" ok, good for you? 😂
Belittling and now patronising as well.
Its like a playground.

Platformed* sorry

It's just depressing.

This thread started off about a politician comparing women wanting women's rights to excrement and has turned into a slagging off of women wanting women's rights for apparently being aligned to a group of men that turned up to shit stir.

Women really are fucked. It's just awful.

Women are blamed by men for wanting to speak and are blamed for the actions of men. It's always women's fault. Always.

We have done exactly that.

The view expressed by the national socialist group is anti peado.

We can only conclude that creme egg considers this to be in alignment with the women speaking and creme egg is therefore opposed to being anti peado.

She hosts rallies called let women speak where women talk about womens issues. One of the issues being the effects of letting men falsify their birth certificates to say they are female with which they can bypass sex segregation put in to protect women. Now trans supportes call this anti trans and women shouldn't be allowed to discuss it. They think and want to action that women should just deal with any issue that arises from this or stay home. I say women should always have the fundamental right to discuss laws that directly impact them. Always. It is part of living in a democracy.

Women absolutely should be platform and discuss issues affecting them, absolutely no question. There are other speakers, events for women that do exactly this. KJK does not consider herself part of the feminist movement. I think she’s harming it and doing more bad than good, polarising women with slightly differing views and aligning herself with the far right.. and some people seem fine with that? She’s being put on a pedestal and that makes me deeply uncomfortable.

do you never have to do any persuasive writing at all

None of them do!

Can you provide the evidence for such a horrific statement?

Get your bingo cards out ready!

It’s not what she said
It’s the way she said it
It’s what she didn’t say
It’s clear she meant the exact opposite
It’s who was within a 10 mile radius saying something that matters
She turned me into a newt

Did I forget any?

https://www.youtube.com/live/qKvpwpfX7-g?feature=share

See from 9.40

Yes fair go doesn’t seem to apply to women

Anyway what’s terd is it meant to be instead of turd

Haven’t watched video

Lovey, you’re undermining yourself by being unable to explain why you believe what you believe

I’m busy weighing up the merits of Lindt eggs

So does Hepwo have to use my disclaimer too. So this is the state of things because you cannot support your own claim and you cannot acknowledge the fail in logic.

I denounce the actions and have not connection with the National Socialist Network!

As if the nazi blokes are on a chat forum right now agonising about the people they associated with on their fun goose-stepping day out.

No, it's just women who have to justify what they said, how they said it, and if they said it in the vicinity of the wrong people.

I denounce the actions and have not connection with the National Socialist Network!

She doesn't hate trans people.

Can you provide the evidence for such a horrific statement?

So I should believe something because ‘everyone knows it’?

I mean this does explain the approach of a number of people on this thread, but it doesn’t seem like a great way to live your life to me

All you have done is insinuate.

Being part of a neo nazi group is a pretty bold statement about your political views. Are you … standing up for them? Not All Nazis?

And what is the relevance of what % of women attending being feminists or not?

How do you think this contributes to your arguments which have been shown to be full of logical flaws and prejudice?

Is there a prescribe % before it can be called a feminist event?

She hates trans people

She hosts rallies called let women speak where women talk about womens issues. One of the issues being the effects of letting men falsify their birth certificates to say they are female with which they can bypass sex segregation put in to protect women. Now trans supportes call this anti trans and women shouldn't be allowed to discuss it. They think and want to action that women should just deal with any issue that arises from this or stay home.
I say women should always have the fundamental right to discuss laws that directly impact them. Always. It is part of living in a democracy.

I have seen “ok groomer” as a response to people who perpetuate the idea to young people and children that it’s possible to change sex, to people who tell them the world is trying to commit trans genocide, or people who think drag is appropriate for children, or people who want to teach the falsehoods of gender identity to young children in schools, or people who tell girls a mastectomy will improve their mental health, or people who publish standards of care containing a chapter on Eunuch identity written in collaboration with child sex abuse fetishists, or people who tell children to run away from their parents, or people who ask children to DM them on social media, or people who want to perform naked in front of children on stage and erode boundaries, or people who claim “love has no age” or people who defend workers for children’s charities who film themselves masturbating at work, and so on.

Trans supporters are of the opinion you can never call out unnaceptable behaviour if done by someone who is transgender. They are above safegaurding measures that are applicable to everyone else.
If you then dare say that that gives sex offenders a 'get out jail free' card as they can fraudently claim trans status and then be above approach, you are accused of being anti trans.

Basically you can never say anything negative about anything that has to do with biology, a transperson specifically, a group of trans people, laws dealing with transgender or positive things about laws dealing with sex segregation, female biology or handling of female issues.

Here you go Mishy. Glad you are back.

Are you an Australian?

Why do you think that you can make such blanket statements about Australian culture?

Trying to undermine and belittle people who don’t agree with you doesn’t make you superior. It looks a little desperate.

Exactly, as I said there will be genuine feminists but there are a lot who have never claimed to be and have declared themselves as such.

It's the case that whatever anyone says only your opinions of them count? You can ascribe any motivation to anyone at any time?

Well the same goes for you. If you object to people with anti peado signs that makes you pro peado.

See, how this works?

It is good advice to check. If you go, I hope you enjoy the screening.

I understand how scared and reluctant women are to attend. Just as you pointed out, I also understand that not attending feels like you are giving in. But you can only ever do what you think is right for you and to keep you safe. I never expected to be standing hand in hand with women at an event. And the things that were being yelled at us felt surreal. So much of it was not even what we are working towards or what we believe.

Just like the poster who mistakenly thinks that supporting trans rights relies only on acceptable of male being called women in situations where it impacts on all female sex based rights, even the rights needed by female trans people. It all seems to be because of misinformation being spread.

And as you say, just us repeatedly refuting the misinformation doesn't seem to be working.

If you go, I will be thinking of you.