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R4 Sunday religious sex workers

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ExiledElsie · 19/03/2023 07:48

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbcradioo_fourfm?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

Surprising section on Sunday on R4 about sex work. All about opportunities for extra income, how it interacts with religion.

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ExiledElsie · 19/03/2023 19:57

Winterborne74 · 19/03/2023 11:19

P.s. should say I didn’t listen, but read the article so may have missed the point of the radio piece.

Your spot on winterborne.

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Anactor · 19/03/2023 19:51

Crutcher · 19/03/2023 19:44

Writing this cheapens the experience of actual victims. Whatever your view is of sex work, those engaging in it do so of their own free will.

If that is your belief, it’s an extremely naive one.

Crutcher · 19/03/2023 19:44

Coyoacan · 19/03/2023 19:05

Next week the religiosity of torture victims

Writing this cheapens the experience of actual victims. Whatever your view is of sex work, those engaging in it do so of their own free will.

namitynamechange · 19/03/2023 19:22

Also "Maya" and her yoga sounds hopelessly naive. I very much doubt her clients are watching her perform yoga because off the spiritual aspects of the practice.

namitynamechange · 19/03/2023 19:20

I also feel uncomfortable about the "sexualisation of religion as a way to increase earnings". Religion has always been sexualised/fetishized by some (sexy nuns,, doing forbidden things in churches etc, burkhas being sexy). But that's at least in part because sacred stuff is seen as forbidden/off limits or because women's religious clothing demonstrates another boundary for men to cross/breach. Its not new. But the idea that playing to that is somehow a valid part of religious experience makes as much sense as prostitution being "empowering" for women. I'm not particularly prudish or dogmatic but it feels sad - like nothing is sacred or allowed to be sacred.

And what's with religion as an "identity" primarily rather than a belief. Is this a New Thing?

Coyoacan · 19/03/2023 19:05

Next week the religiosity of torture victims

EndlessTea · 19/03/2023 15:34

I couldn’t finish reading that. So revolting.

JacquelinePot · 19/03/2023 13:00

Read but haven't listened and honestly found it pretty gross.

ÉireannachÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉ · 19/03/2023 12:03

It's strange that people would think sex workers couldn't possibly be religious/spiritual.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 19/03/2023 11:23

Is nothing sacred to these people?

Winterborne74 · 19/03/2023 11:19

P.s. should say I didn’t listen, but read the article so may have missed the point of the radio piece.

Winterborne74 · 19/03/2023 11:12

Safety challenges are an occupational hazard for sex workers.

No shit.

Also it’s pretty grim that it’s presented as as positive that religious prostitutes can help a sex buyer overcome his religious inhibitions about paying for sex as if that is a good thing.

As ever these pieces are completely bereft of any kind of class or structural analysis. There maybe a few individual happy sex workers, but the global impact of the sex trade on women and girls is devastating and weaving together a few individual stories in the absence of any context or data to persuade people that the main problem with sex work is the stigma rather than abhorrent exploitation is colluding with and acting to support that exploitation.

Gonners · 19/03/2023 10:28

Just to update Elsie's link, which is to the live broadcast. The programme is here, and the section starts 30 minutes in.

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001k7kb

BlackForestCake · 19/03/2023 09:22

You have to be incredibly perverted to describe how a prostitute prays when she doesn’t feel safe with a john, and present this as something positive.

ExiledElsie · 19/03/2023 07:58

theconversation.com/uncovering-the-secret-religious-and-spiritual-lives-of-sex-workers-195126

An article by the woman being interviewed.

So depressing how women advocate for men to use women as objects and claim it empowers the women. Apparently it's the organisations trying to get women out of prostitution that are more problematic.

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