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Lib Dems just showed their true colours

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Birdsweepsin · 18/03/2023 18:02

At the Liberal Democrat Conference just now.

A fairly ordinary motion to tidy up quotas on party committees - basically, as it stood women were disadvantaged as a committee could be constituted entirely of men and non-binary men.

Wasn't even allowed to be discussed. The zealots pushed a 'move to next business' vote to silence women.

Raging misogyny. It's really, really not a good look guys.

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tanksgoggle · 24/03/2023 07:32

the comments…! Some of these are quite extreme. Shame when the original contribution from Willie was trying to take the heat out of the situation.

Cattenberg · 23/03/2023 23:31

Crouton19 · 19/03/2023 11:07

They are the epitome of ‘so open-minded their brains have fallen out’.

I saw the Lib-Dems as a party who didn’t really know what they stood for. A party with no absolute values, which could only be defined in relation to the Tories and Labour. A party who shifted left and right depending on where there was a gap. A party who dithered about in the middle of the road until they got run over.

Winterborne74 · 23/03/2023 11:51

Those comments!😱

Birdsweepsin · 23/03/2023 11:31

"Disagree Well!"

Nice piece, shame about the comments

https://www.libdemvoice.org/disagree-well-72839.html

Lib Dems just showed their true colours
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JacquelinePot · 23/03/2023 07:23

Good god, the comments on that liberal [ahahahaha!] voice blog 😱

You can feel the almost religious fervour coming through the screen. So busy being self righteous they don't realise how wrong they are. I don't just mean wrong about the issue itself, but wrong about what we actually believe (as is usually the case).

I suppose it's easier to dehumanised people who believe some completely made up awful things than people who believe perfectly reasonable, WORAIDS, sane and true things.

I would not want to meet those posters down a dark alley. And I certainly won't vote for them, so I guess they'll be quite happy with that.

Birdsweepsin · 23/03/2023 06:26

Labour, Greens, Lib Dems, SNP...

Do none of you want women's votes?

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TheBiologyStupid · 22/03/2023 22:29

Yes, saw the Glinner update earlier - Ed Davey should be ashamed of himself.

tanksgoggle · 22/03/2023 22:09

Wow, how bloody disappointing :(

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SinnerBoy · 21/03/2023 05:40

EpicChaos · 18/03/2023 21:43

Nb's and various other things, such as paedophilia and coprophilia...

Was it not - even worse - coprophagia?

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 21/03/2023 02:09

TheBiologyStupid · 20/03/2023 23:42

Comments also 100% moderated.

I assumed so. So authoritarian and censorious, yet still apparently "Liberals". FFS!

That reminds meof this twitter exchange from 2018, when it was rumoured that Ian Huntley identified as trans

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Alisdair Calder McGregor Jun 6 V

Hi. I am a member of the LibDems Federal Policy Committee, & the liaison between FPC and LGBTbLD

LibDem Policy, which was explicitly stated in the most recent Manifesto, is that prisoners should be held in facilities which reflecting Gender Identity, not birth Gender assignment.

Zetetic Elench. 20h V

Hi Alisdair, do you think people referring to lan Huntley (the child murderer) by the name and sex recorded on his birth certificate, should be banned from Twitter?

Alisdair Calder McGregor . 20h V

No. I'm a Liberal, I'm very rarely in favour of banning things. If you want to make yourself an obvious transphobic arse by deadnaming a transperson - whoever they are & whatever they've done - then that's your moral failure in public.

Lib Dems just showed their true colours
TheBiologyStupid · 20/03/2023 23:42

Comments also 100% moderated.

I assumed so. So authoritarian and censorious, yet still apparently "Liberals". FFS!

Birdsweepsin · 20/03/2023 22:47

WildishBambino · 20/03/2023 20:39

The house journal of the Lib Dems says it's time to kick out GC women.

Comments 100% in favour. First comment from transwoman Sarah Brown, well known harasser of women.

They definitely don't want your vote.

Comments 100% in favour.

Comments also 100% moderated.

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mach2 · 20/03/2023 21:37

That article is just mental, not to mention the comments - one accuses GC women of wanting to enforce gender roles! Beyond fixing.

WildishBambino · 20/03/2023 20:39

The house journal of the Lib Dems says it's time to kick out GC women.

Comments 100% in favour. First comment from transwoman Sarah Brown, well known harasser of women.

They definitely don't want your vote.

Birdsweepsin · 20/03/2023 19:06

Instant karma

www.theargus.co.uk/news/23398819.lewes-mp-maria-caulfield-slams-councillor-sean-macleod-tweet/

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FOJN · 20/03/2023 08:39

Winterborne74 · 19/03/2023 23:54

Thanks for posting that.

I always vote Libdem until the coalition and Nick Clegg screwed up the voting reform referendum which I imagine he negotiate in exchange for taking responsibility for increasing tuition fees.

Anyway there is no way I could vote for them now, listening to them heckle a woman pointing out that meeting female representation quotas wth non binary males and
transwomen is not equality is chilling. There is no shame about the misogyny which is rife in the party or any will to address it.

Birdsweepsin · 20/03/2023 08:20

I'm just pondering.

1.Trans activists destroyed Nicola Sturgeon, and have badly damaged the SNP

  1. Many, many people, especially women, on the left or centre (and hugely anti-Tory because... well, just look at all this... manic gesturing ) describe themselves as politically homeless

Why the fuck aren't they reading the room and appealing to women? It ought to be obvious.

Numpties.

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Winterborne74 · 19/03/2023 23:54

See it in action:

twitter.com/treesey/status/1637426420883357699?s=61&t=vrfh73NvYySozkuIkLckQw

FuckNuggets · 19/03/2023 23:45

ArabellaScott · 18/03/2023 18:10

I used to rate the Libdems. What happened to them?

They got in bed with the Tories 13 years ago.

TheBiologyStupid · 19/03/2023 23:36

Thanks, Winterborne - I'd missed that article about Swinson. What an idiot.

Winterborne74 · 19/03/2023 23:03

I know it’s a cliche, but it’s so weird seeing a 21st Century Witch Hunt in real time. Maddening that the WEP is such a lost cause. Greens, LibDems, actively saying they don’t want my vote. Labour mostly tolerant of outright misogyny while gingerly hoiking one buttock onto the fence.

I evidently wrongly used to have the impression that the LibDems were a party of ideas. Wonder what Charles Kennedy would have made of it all.

And whenever I think of the LibDems on this subject I think of this mind blowing line from Jo Swinson’s book ostensibly on how to achieve “Equal Power”:

Writing in Equal Power about her time working at Viking FM in the 2000s and how male-dominated radio is, she says: “In fact the gender balance was slightly better than we knew at the time, as our anchor breakfast presenter was Stephanie Hirst, at the time known as Simon.” She does not appear to be joking.

unherd.com/2019/12/jo-swinsons-feminist-credentials-are-a-joke/

TheBiologyStupid · 19/03/2023 22:38

FOJN · 19/03/2023 18:00

They are not critical of gender — they want to impose rigid and unchangeable gender roles on everyone, and don’t care who that imposition hurts or kills.

Misunderstanding, misrepresentation or stupidity?

All 3?!

ArabellaScott · 19/03/2023 22:23

Birdsweepsin · 19/03/2023 19:53

They never allow anyone who disagrees with their viewpoint to speak.

Which creates a void that they then fill with all this Nazi/ tradwife bollocks.

It's utterly terrifying. Like being in a cult. And if you dare even just try to ask a question, you are tarred and feathered!

It reminds me of where the rest of the country was about four or five years back.

FOJN · 19/03/2023 20:43

ArabellaScott · 19/03/2023 18:52

I think that person may be a satire. But I honestly can't tell. If they are, fair play, you got me! If not, geezo.

If they are then they got me too. I have seen worse written in all seriousness by the Libdems. As you say it's so hard to tell these days.

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