Starmer: “Gender recognition will not be one of the priorities of the incoming government.”

This one Icake?

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/18/sex-education-means-gender-dysphoria-new-anorexia-girls-says/

@EpicChaos you got a bit further than me, I got blocked while she was being self deprecating about her Yorkshire puddings (possibly with a tinkly laugh, she's so relatable ).

I caught a glimpse of a headline about gender dysphoria being this years anorexia, today's date.....anybody? Might be one for a new thread?

Sadly, I couldn't get as far as the comments, @MrsOvertonsWindow i didn't even get as far as finding out if the poor old soul only got a proper dinner on Mothers Day, or if it was the only day of the year that she saw her grans.
Either way, i don't much care, this is her that said...
" We will not rest until women and girls are safe at home, in the street, at school, colleges and university, in the workplace and online. " .
and yet, she's part of a shadow cabinet of a party that seeks to allow males into the very places where women ought to be able to seek sanctuary, with a party leader that thinks men can grow womens parts.
If she has any terfy qualities, then they are very well hidden and she is far too much of a coward to stand with Rosie D.
Anything any of them say is far too little, far too late, they've already done the damage.

I didn't expect anyone to #be kind. I expected people to debate without being personally rude and one person did - as well as challenging the personal attack levelled at me, which was deleted by MNHQ (I didn't report it).

Evidently those who don't toe the line you find acceptable aren't welcome to post. As I said, if I'd noticed initially what forum this was posted in, I wouldn't have bothered to contribute - probably better for both of us.

Annelise Dodd's article about politicians overlooking women has not been received well by Telegraph readers. The comments are almost 100% full on terf! 😂

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/03/18/politicians-have-overlooked-women-long-labour-wont-let/

Article in the Telegraph headed:
"Labour ‘must fix its trans stance to win the next election’
Sir Keir Starmer warned that party needs to clarify its policies to be closer to the public’s views on the debate"

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/03/18/labour-must-fix-trans-stance-win-next-election/

Slothtoes · Yesterday 13:29
Well actually Kier, gender should be a key priority of an incoming Labour government

because we need reform of the equality Act to distinguish sex and gender, and repeal of the GRA to sort this mess out.

Would anyone who has not signed this yet please take a look now? Even more signatures would help to add weight to the message that many people want this?
www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4758082-petition-to-update-the-equality-act-thread-3

Here’s a good explanation as to why if you don’t already know:
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mps-to-debate-gender-petition-backed-by-jk-rowling-qh0h0bctk
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/4534821c-bf89-11ed-b52d-512231a0c9aa?shareToken=a2be6368ec3ec1a7a1e413545f54b9d9

This

I did ask a question on a similar thread along the lines in your post

I was curious if those posters would think for example if it was OK for a gay person to not vote for a party or leader or mp that they felt had homophobic policies

No one answered...obvs

UK women got the vote earlier than in lots of other countries but it has only been just over 100 years. Only 100 years and we are now having to fight to keep our hard-won sex-based rights. Sex based rights also apply to men incidentally, they also may not be discriminated against because of their biological male sex. They just don't need the protection to the same extent.

Yes and let's face it whatever his other 'ERG' opinions, I am fairly sure Rees-Mogg will know that biological sex is important in most contexts and certainly not want children to be exposed to inappropriate sexual content at school.

Oh dear, did the nasty feminists not appreciate you trying to guilt-trip them? Why can't they just #bekind?

it doesn't mean it's not going to happen
Absolutely. It's Grade A politician's double-speak.

It doesn't matter if it's a priority or not, if it's item number 50 in his list of things that are important it doesn't mean it's not going to happen x

100% this ⬆️⬆️

This thread came up in Active which is the only reason I posted on it. If I'd seen which forum it was in I probably wouldn't have bothered.

I remain grateful to the one poster who was prepared to engage in constructive and civil discourse with me, even though she disagreed.

I went to see if Guy Adams the journalist is the same as Guy Adams the author (I'm still none the wiser) and found the journalist's twitter feed. He's tweeted the excerpts that weren't suitable for publication,

twitter.com/guyadams/status/1636995696124473346?s=20

Honestly, I am extremely nervous about the campaign to repeal the GRC, much as I sympathise with the principles behind the campaign. I think Labour are going to get in and replace it with something worse, that is effectively self-ID.

It’s clear how Labour view the rights of women

Imagine ‘rights hoarding dinosaurs’ being lobbed at any minority

After it took us so long to win our rights, just to be scoffed at and diminished

And the insistence that women should not put their own rights before any other consideration. Impossible to imagine this being said to any other group, "Black people, you must vote for an avowed racist because it's your duty to keep the Tories out".

Sometimes I post in this type of thread in case a labour Bot reviews them ...
I'm another Life-long labour voter who will spoil ballot entirely because of position of labour on gender. Omfg what a mess it all is

So you're prepared to enable the reelection of Rees - Mogg?

Whatabouttery. My favourite logical fallacy.

Talk is cheap. Let's see Labour repeal the GRC and then maybe I'll start to believe them.

Ah, whatabouttery. My favourite logical fallacy. This isn't about the Conservative Party; it's about Keir Starmer and the Labour Party.