Thoughts on Calvin Robinson?

Sorry @noblegiraffe but it sounds like personal prejudice to me. He hasn't done you any harm, you just don't agree with his opinions and for some reason you disapprove of him seeking a public platform. But there's no substance to your claim that he's a bad person. It looks like bigotry and intolerance to me.

Why can't you accept him having different views to you? You say it's not because he's black. Is it his religion then? Or you just really can't tolerate different opinions in anyone? (In any case, I really hope you weren't at that teaching conference as a teacher.)

Peddling ivermectin certainly does.

However, I thought he was prick when he was a teacher, which was certainly an opinion shared by many who listened to his talk that day.

Ah so you think he's a prick because he wants to be in the limelight. So you think every radio host/TV presenter/writer/podcaster is a prick. Because wanting to have a public platform is what makes a person a prick. Why though? I mean, lots of people do want a public platform. What's intrinsically wrong with that?

So being pro Brexit and anti lockdown makes a person a prick?

Was asked today by a friend who knows I'm GC what my thoughts are on Calvin Robinson. Apparently he's becoming a face of GC views?!

How can someone who isn't a feminist be the face of Gender Critical FEMINISM?

Also, surely Calvin Robinson isn't famous enough to be the face of anything?

I think your 'friend' is pulling your leg.

They seem like opinions that can all work together. You can be a brexiteer and a religious person at the same time. Is he only supposed to have one opinion that he's allowed to talk about?

You are claiming he's a prick based on nothing but the fact that you disagree with his opinions.

No, that's your strawman again.

I think he's a prick because I've seen his behaviour over the years and how he jumps on any right wing bandwagon in the interests of self-promotion.

As I said, I first heard him talk as a teacher at a teaching conference. He's worn several different hats since then.

he's a pretty standard conservative evangelical in his beliefs

Except when he was pretty standard Brexit Party candidate, then in the pandemic he was pretty standard anti lockdown ivermectin peddler.

?? How is it a strawman, @noblegiraffe ? You are claiming he's a prick based on nothing but the fact that you disagree with his opinions.

At least with Katie Hopkins you could point to where she's been personally abusive towards others. Whereas CR is a religious conservative who says the sorts of things a religious conservative would but as far as I know isn't abusive or criminal.

So it's actually you who's behaving like a "poundshop Katie Hopkins" here, name calling and frothing over someone having opinions you don't like.

So the OP is ‘stepping out of the darkness’.

Well , I believe that.

I think he comes across as a person who wants the limelight. As far as I can see he's a pretty standard conservative evangelical in his beliefs, so his basic sense of how people should try to behave is quite different than mainstream secular society.

Black conservatives do get a lot of shit though not nearly so much in the UK as the US. I am sure there is some of that though I don't really see that kind of thing on this board.

Why is he a prick? Because he has opinions and beliefs you disagree with? I find that kind of intolerance and bigotry quite childish, if I'm honest.

Nice strawman.

As I said before, he is a poundshop Katie Hopkins, spouting whatever crap which will get him a platform. The only thing he's really interested in is Calvin Robinson.

I strongly suspect his story about why the church wouldn't ordain him isn't the whole truth.

Why’s that?

Why is he a prick? Because he has opinions and beliefs you disagree with? I find that kind of intolerance and bigotry quite childish, if I'm honest.

Unless you can back up your assertion that he's a prick because of something he's actually done?

@CryptoFascistMadameCholet I love Glen Loury's voice! I've heard him speak about being a black conservative and how people just can't compute. It's so incredibly racist (and it's always from the people who claim to be anti-racist).

Having had him bought to m attention, I watched a video of an address he did about racism - or rather critical race theory which he says CoE have embraced. His problem with it was CRT makes white people to be ‘sinners’ by virtue of their skin colour/ancestral sin and that ‘sin’ can never be absolved. This goes directly against the Bible’s teaching that Jesus can forgive all sin.

Wow he gets a lot of hatred! I'm surprised. Is it because he's black

No, it's because he's a prick. See also Laurence Fox.

They really do!

I was listening to the most recent episode of the Glenn Loury Show the other day and he was saying that there was a point in his life where he tried his best to discard his (American, small c, not Tory) conservative views and embrace the Democratic Party because it was that or be ostracised by his entire family.

Looking forward to his autobiography, which he said is now with his publishers. I hope he does an audio book because I would love to hear it in his voice.

Ah. Ok.

Makes sense.

Plus, he does have spectacular hair.

Wow he gets a lot of hatred! I'm surprised. Is it because he's black - but not saying what black people are "supposed" to say about social issues? Black conservatives do get a lot of hatred, don't they?

Of course it was quorate. If there's any one thing The GC are best at, it's reading the legal fine print.

Anyway, our 'chief' Calvin Robinson is an avid collector of Talking Points That Will Get Me on GB News. If the liberal/leftwing academy view was that sex is binary, he would be arguing the opposite. I wouldn't think he is sincere on anything. He has all the leadership skills and intellectual gravitas of a Greggs serviette.

He's an ordained CofE priest I believe. He seems like a decent person to me, someone who follows the principals of his faith.

He's a grifter who jumps on whatever right wing bandwagon is going to try to raise his profile. A poundshop Katie Hopkins.

During covid he was making videos of himself hugging Laurence Fox and wittering on about ivermectin. Before that he was trying to get himself elected as a candidate for the Brexit Party.

I first became aware of him as he gave a talk at a teaching conference about how tough it was being a Tory teacher. No mate, your colleagues have a problem with you because you're a prick.

I strongly suspect his story about why the church wouldn't ordain him isn't the whole truth.

Ah okay. I remember listening to a podcast with him when he was doing his training, so assumed he'd gone on to be ordained. Good on him causing a headache for the CofE!

I think the Cof E wouldn’t have him because he doesn’t believe in systemic racism. He might have changed his position on that after that experience.

I think he’s a deacon of the Free Church.

Principles