Thoughts on Calvin Robinson?

"I don't even think he's religious"
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Yes statements like this definitely make him look like the crackpot...

Is there a word to describe the attitude of a person who regards his or her opinions as so obviously correct--and so profoundly enlightened-that only hate or bigotry can explain others' holding different beliefs...?

Everyone on here who is just throwing reductive insulting descriptions towards CR because he takes a differing view to you just show yourselves up.

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yeah, me too

some people need to spend less time on the internet

and this is a confirmed MN addict talking

The fact is that it's easier for people like Calvin Robertson, Micheal Holmes, Matt Walsh, etc to stand up against gender ideology. They are already on the other side of the fence on the majority of these social issues. They can speak out and have their whole community, their friends and their family nod along and support them. For people like the majority of us, who are pro-choice, who campaigned for, or at least supported, equal rights for same sex attracted people, who are feminist, it's harder because we will, at least initially if not indefinitely, lose more.

So it's easy for right-wing conservatives to dominate the discussion. It's why people like JK Rowling are soooooo hated. She is so clearly not right-wing, conservative, anti-feminist or homophobic. Now that she and a number of others like her have been so very fucking brave and spoken out, the attempt is to say, look who you are like, to try and tarnish them. Non-conservative GC people are terrifying and they will eventually trigger a critical mass as they more who speak out, the more who are inspired to.

Why is it so hard to accept that a black man might be religious and conservative and not make him out to be a grifter or a crank?

It's not the being black, religious or conservative that makes him a grifter, it's the grifting. Not sure why you don't understand this.

He trained at Cambridge didn't he? Or was it Oxford? Hardly some crackpot.

Why is it so hard to accept that a black man might be religious and conservative and not make him out to be a grifter or a crank? I just can't see how it isn't racism, unless I suppose you just can't accept anyone who differs from you in any way.

I don't share CR's worldview but he seems like the kind of person who'd be happy to have a conversation about his ideas and respect you even if you didn't agree.

It really makes the left look massively intolerant when they can't articulate any argument about their ideas and instantly resort to ad hominem. It's intolerance and bigotry. At least CR is willing to talk about ideas and beliefs and doesn't just slur his opponents. For that reason, he will always have more reach and influence than those who simply call names and shout abuse.

Ha ha this thread is a fantastic example of the Mumsnet hive mind.

Calvin Robinson is the perfect Terf Leader @meatbasedbreakfast

He should be signed up immediately.

I doubt he's even that religious - I think he just figured he was due to age out of the 'right wing guy...but he's young and black!' niche market and getting ordained (albeit in some crackpot church based out of a shed in Harlesden) would be a way to get a new USP to keep him getting invited onto TV for another few years.

I don't doubt he also thinks the sky is blue and water is wet.

We're not talking about Brexit, we're talking about The Brexit Party. Founded by Nigel Farage and stuffed with right-wing people.

And as this is about Calvin Robinson, are you trying to imply that he isn't right wing because some left wing people supported Brexit? You know it's not just Brexit he spouts off about, right?

They stood 283 candidates! It was a single issue party! And yes, some high profile candidates are obvious right wingers but they stood down against Johnson because the Tory manifesto in 2019 was ‘get Brexit done’ and the Labour manifesto was ‘second referendum within 6 months’.

I can’t believe that in 2023 there is still someone out there refusing to believe that Brexit wasn’t an exclusively right wing phenomenon 🤦‍♀️

I don't know much about him but I have seen him a couple of times on news programmes. The utter prick bit rings true based on what I saw. He also seemed deeply unpleasant. Is he CofE do you know?

They stood down in Tory seats because they didn't want to split the right-wing vote that they knew they'd attract.

We're talking about a party led by Nigel Farage, with candidates like Richard Tice, Annuziata Rees-Mog and Anne Widdecombe.

It was a single issue party that ran on the strategy of specifically targeting the votes of Labour Leavers.

labourlist.org/2019/11/brexit-party-stands-down-in-tory-held-seats-to-focus-on-labour-leavers/

So no, neither Brexit itself nor the Brexit Party were a left wing v right wing issue.

I would love that

There are positions that can be taken between 'free for all' and 'rolling back gay rights'.

So he has some firm values and ideas about appropriate boundaries?

We don't have to agree on all of his positions, but limits are not a bad thing in and of themselves. In fact boundaries and limits are pre-requisistes for any healthy and functioning organism.

As I see it we are facing a situation in which some people want no boundaries, no borders, and no limits - especially when it comes to individual freedoms and people's supposed right to do, and go, wherever they like, while others recognise that sometimes that is entirely appropriate to say " no" or " enough" or " you can't come in".

Why are feminists asked to take responsibility for the views of some random man just because he agrees with not letting biological males into prisons with vulnerable women?

TRAs are rarely held to account for transwomen who are sex offenders. Why is that?

Just because feminists are women and sometimes mothers doesn’t make us responsible for/ required to mother others.

The only 'movement' I see myself being part of is the the one to push back against Queer Theory ( and Gender Identity theory) in all its forms; especially when it infringes on the integrity and the boundaries of women and children.

He's against same sex marriage and sex before marriage. In that respect he would like to impose restrictions on other people's lives.

He's a crank (a term not used enough given the absolute explosion in their number), but not a leader of anything.

Who is Calvin Robinson and how might we have heard of him?

He stood as a Brexit Party candidate. I don't think they could be described as 'left wing'.

it sounds like personal prejudice to me

Prejudice means to pre-judge someone based on (for example) characteristics rather than words. PP has explicitly explained what words and actions cause her to dislike CR- that's not prejudice by definition.

I don't know him at all but a quick google showed he was indeed promoting Invermectin as a treatment for Covid despite having no medical training and despite clear medical advice against it. That alone makes me think he's an idiot at best.

I don’t disagree that CR has a pompous, prickish air about him* but neither Brexit nor anti lockdown are exclusively right wing positions, I know loads of Lexiteers (aka the Tony Benn position, very common in the NW) and left wing libertarians who were troubled by the government’s ridiculous restrictions liberty (eg the police fines for ‘an illegal picnic’).

*Most vicars and priests I’ve come across have a similar prickish air, tbf.

Yes, it is indeed 'personal prejudice' not to like pompous grifters spouting whatever right-wing garbage will get them on GB News that day. 😂 I guess that is my burden and something that I'll have to work on.