Thoughts on Calvin Robinson?

Do they 'run about' in them? Please say they do!

Sorry I didn't get his name but if he believes in Free Speech why doesn't it apply to Gary Lineker?

There are some people in the public eye who are actually in need of support away from the media, not more limelight.

Laurence Fox is one. A man who openly talks about his struggles with mental health, and yet whose provocative views are published in newspapers to his own detriment. CR is another.

Is there not an ethical code to prevent this sort of acting out being published by news agencies? Even on a personal level, can we not just politely look away?

Free Speech Nation is Andrew Doyle's show and he is brilliant. He wrote a book about free speech which sets out all the issues very clearly and is well worth a read.

I haven't seen a nun in a traditional habit for years. I was taught by nuns who were Daughters of Charity of St Vincent De Paul and they wore the white butterfly headdresses, I think they went out in the 60s.

I looked at something on GBNews the other night, it was called Free Speech Nation and the bit I saw was all about criticising Gary Lineker because of what he said about the govt. I thought it was hilarious and wondered if they knew what the programme was about.

I don't know if it is always so funny but I thought it might be tuning in if I needed a laugh sometime.

Eyerollcentral didn't say he doesn't talk about Christ, what she said was I don’t know that I’ve ever heard CR talking about Christ though Unless the only thing he ever talks about is Christ it is perfectly possible that he does talk about Christ but she's only heard him talking about other things like covid vaccines or something.

In that case apologies. I just wondered where the commentary had come from. This thread took a weird church and cassock based turn and I couldn't keep up.

I didn’t spot that on the “I’m as GC as they come but...” thread!

Cassocks aren't that uncommon in either the CofE or among theology students. Probably more than among Catholics.

I don't disagree that the guy seems to be interested in becoming some kind of public figure. But so do a lot of people.Lots of people who go into writing or activism, journalism. There are some where you get a sense they are chasing some kind of fame, or money, but I don't think that necessarily means they don't believe in the cause also.

He's been quite open that until late last year that he was a theology student, not ordained at all. You are imagining something that seems to be unrelated to reality.

This thread drove me to google him

wikipedia informs me that his GB News Sunday show is called ‘Calvin’s Common Sense Crusade’

i’m as GC as they come and if someone wants to criticise him for the shit name of his TV show, that’s a bandwagon I’ll happily jump on

I think CR is closer to Loury and McWhorter from what I've heard him say about critical race theory and "woke" authoritarianism. But I wouldn't say I've heard a lot from him on any subject @TheBiologyStupid . I expect we'd disagree on an awful lot but quite probably agree on CRT and the woke!

I live near a seminary: lots of cassock wearing there.

Also I live near a convent where the nuns still wear habits.

It's like being in a Monty Python sketch round here 😁

Glenn Loury (and John McWhorter, too) talks a lot of sense, but gets dismissed for being "the wrong kind of black". As did Kwasi Kwarteng (who doesn't make any sense, in my view), when he was called "superficially black" by Rupa Huq. (At least Labour had the sense to suspend her.)

I don't know enough about Calvin Robinson, although I suspect that he's closer to Kwarteng than Loury and McWhorter and that I wouldn't agree with him on very much at all.

Maybe he wears a cassock as an outward sign of his committed faith which he subscribes to very traditionally.
Maybe it's traditional in his church?

Why do you ascribe negative intentions to his choice of dress without any basis?

Wearing a cassock hardly benefits him in the current climate it is more likely to lead to him being dismissed and ostracised for his views rather than give him special authority in most people's view.

Not sure if a cassock is unusual really? I had breakfast the other day with two men in cassocks. They seemed fairly casual about it.

Yes, I don't think a dog collar is unusual.

I’ve seen him wearing a dog collar when on GB news. Not sure about the rest of his outfit.

Does CR wear a cassock day to day?

Do you object to the dog collar for the same reason?

That appears to be as part of a ceremony. I doubt any of those men would be wearing a cassock day to day.

Because even in my youth to see clergy wearing cassocks was rare. For a young man to choose to adopt that style of dress now is a deliberate choice. He is not obliged or expected to wear it. He is choosing to wear it, I think, in an attempt to present an image which draws upon the ‘authority’ of the Church to make his own position appear weightier. It also makes him much more identifiable as it is not a common form of dress for clergy now. It appears to me to be a cynical branding move.

Okay but your "observations" don't appear to be based on anything. Certainly not on the actual truth!