Thoughts on Calvin Robinson?

There were a few people, I don't know who he is so I can't say what he was saying, I assume he has guests or a panel, but surely on a programme with that name you'd expect them to be pro free speech?

Sorry I didn't get his name but if he believes in Free Speech why doesn't it apply to Gary Lineker?

Lots of people shout about free speech when it's a cause they agree with but want anyone they disagree with silenced. The Gary Linekar thing is a good example of some right wing advocates of free speech deploying cancel culture when it suits them.

Still I'd be surprised and disappointed if that was Andrew Doyle's position.

I've wondered this. I think it's because the left have backed themselves into a moral corner. They have a tendency to moralise every issue and then convince themselves that their position is the moral position so their opponent's position must be immoral. And if their opponent's position is immoral that means they must be a bad person. And because they are a bad person that means no common ground can be found on any issue because even if bad people superficially take the same position as you on another issue they must be doing so for nefarious reasons because they are bad and couldn't possibly be acting in good faith. Common ground would require the left to acknowledge that some issues are nuanced and not black and white / good or bad.

'The left' all think that do they? The whole of 'the left' think in black and white terms, moralise every issue and avoid nuance? Well it's a good job you are here to let us know they are all bad people.

Thanks @Signalbox that makes sense. Do you think the left moralise so much as they have replaced religion with their politics? Or maybe politics is their ethics and so they feel good and virtuous?

Can someone explain why the Left doesn't want you to find common ground with people...?

I've wondered this. I think it's because the left have backed themselves into a moral corner. They have a tendency to moralise every issue and then convince themselves that their position is the moral position so their opponent's position must be immoral. And if their opponent's position is immoral that means they must be a bad person. And because they are a bad person that means no common ground can be found on any issue because even if bad people superficially take the same position as you on another issue they must be doing so for nefarious reasons because they are bad and couldn't possibly be acting in good faith. Common ground would require the left to acknowledge that some issues are nuanced and not black and white / good or bad.

He is being monstered by the Left possibly as he appears on GB News in the same way that Andrew Doyle's reasoned and sensible arguments can be ignored as he presents on the same channel.

Somewhat ironic that Calvin is getting stick for wearing a traditional cassock, dare I say it, some may even consider A DRESS???!!

Of course I don’t, plenty of traditional garb for men around the world is very similar.

I am mystified by anyone who thinks a person who understands the reality of biological sex and wants to protect children is supposed to look, sound or act a certain way.

Truly bizarre. Especially as it’s a view 99.99% of people in the world hold.

Agreed, he is perfectly reasonable. I've always been rather conservative,
but I'm also a Lesbian and pretty devoted pagan. I'm sure Rev Robinson and I would agree on many things and disagree on other things.
Can someone explain why the Left doesn't want you to find common ground with people...?

Perfectly reasonable.

Here's Calvin talking about free speech and drag shows for kids.

twitter.com/jessgill03/status/1636446842928898054?t=Y1HZtSyIS8DtzSCupWu8Fw&s=19

That is more brilliant every time I read it 🌟

He tells her he's a woman too he has a ladybrain
He tells her his identity and hers; they are the same
He tells her not to talk about her body; it's not fair
Her body is her privilege his own, a cross to bear

He tells her that she cannot talk or otherwise allude
To what her female body does it's nasty to exclude
He says respect diversity except he would prefer
That she would not point out the ways that he's diverse from her

He tells her that biology does not impact her life
She should still bear his children but she must call him 'wife'
He says that words must all evolve she must learn to make do
And now that woman is his word he's taking 'female' too

He tells her that a woman is whatever he decides
He will not put it into words she must not ask, he chides
He tells her he is more oppressed than she has ever been
He says she must agree with him or else she's being mean

She searches for the words she needs to talk about herself
The billions who exist like her their lives, their rights, their health
Whatever word she chooses now he finds a way to spin it
The conversation carries on but she's no longer in it

Rachel Irischild

based on

He Tells Her by Wendy Cope

I guess we all see things in different ways, I thought he was very smug and self satisfied. That is if he was the person I saw.

Oh yes - Titania McGrath! Superb!

Andrew Doyle's The New Puritans: How the Religion of Social Justice Captured the Western World is also good. And his alter ego Titania McGrath is a work of genius.

Free Speech Nation is actually really good and has delved deep in to the attack on women's rights, particularly from the TRAs. I really rate Andrew Doyle, great interviewer and he has had some great guests on.

Completely agree.

What do I think of him? It is my sincerely-held personal belief that he’s a seriously creepy fucker. If I saw him in the street I’d shudder.

What is CR acting out and what does he need protection from?

He seems very confident and happy In the public space and with his private life as far as I know.
Do you know any different?

I didn't see the show you're referring to so I've no idea what was discussed.

OT, but I believe monastic orders with traditional habits have been doing a lot better recently than those without.

I was thinking, CR almost looks like he could shape up to be a sort of conservative English Al Sharpton one day. Whatever one thinks of that!

Oh right, well that sounds fair enough.

It was more criticism but also pointing out that he may have been breaching his contract so potentially not a free speech issue anyway. They weren't calling for him to be sacked or anything.

I only watched a few minutes so I wouldn't like to say what the whole show was about, the bit I watched seemed to be a bit of both to be honest. Fair enough if they don't agree with him but there definitely seemed to be some of it being he shouldn't have said it and shouldn't be allowed back on the BBC.

Were they criticising what he said or were they saying he should not have been allowed to say it?