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But it is "in schools" - help SSA amplify these terrible failures of safeguarding

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2fallsfromSSA · 15/03/2023 10:45

Over the last week or so, education leaders have denied that inappropriate and often unlawful RSE is being taught in our schools.

This thread makes for very sobering reading and needs to be in front of your MP and the Secretary of State for Education. Parents need to holding leaders to account and asking what the government is going to do about this horrific failure of safeguarding.

twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1635573520942891008?s=20

Please write to your MP and the Secretary of State for Education and include this thread. Copy in OFSTED and the Children's Commissioner

If you are on twitter please share and tag your MP, Gillian Keegan and the Children's Commissioner. (need the @ symbol before) Rachel_deSouza, GillianKeegan, ofstednews

www.writetothem.com/
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Also, use this thread to talk to you own schools. Find out what is being taught and demand to see the resources. People are finally listening, we need to ensure they now act.

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WarriorN · 21/03/2023 05:19

Another one saying thank you so much to SSAUK for shining a spotlight.

Someone on twitter has said "So privatisation of education provision has caused your woke nightmare for the proponents of privatisation "

Sorry can't link as phone playing up but they're absolutely right.

WarriorN · 21/03/2023 05:14

SinnerBoy · 15/03/2023 20:12

Didn't you see Veb's thread? The dep head threatened to report her to the Police, for "defamation."

Jesus I missed this! Jfc

MrsOvertonsWindow · 20/03/2023 23:22

I don't disagree TooBigForMyBoots. This is a complete failure by the government to recognise a dangerous ideology and enable what is evidently the grooming of children to lower their sexual boundaries that has no place being promoted by schools.
But I also condemn the unions, Ofsted, the Dfe and Headteachers who know how important safeguarding is yet who all collectively failed to exercise any curiosity about the explosion in numbers of children believing they were born in the wrong body. Too many of them signed up to controversial lobby groups in sexual politics, many of which are closely aligned with paedophiles and adults displaying sexual fetishes, who ignored the rights of girls and imposed mixed sex toilets, changing rooms and showers on children failing to exercise any due diligence.
They've all failed, and continue to fail children.

TooBigForMyBoots · 20/03/2023 22:55

I think some of you are being unfair to teachers here. Ever since 2017 when Theresa May said boys could be girls, more and more schools have outsourced RSE and I don't blame them.

What we need from the government is clarity wrt single sex spaces and safeguarding for our schools and proper training for those teaching RSE. A Sec of State for Education who knows what a girl is would be useful as well.

SinnerBoy · 20/03/2023 22:35

Ah, thanks - I had a brain fart... I knew that!

MrsOvertonsWindow · 20/03/2023 22:34

SinnerBoy · 20/03/2023 22:21

ResisterRex · Today 20:29

More examples

Well, that's shocking, but sadly, I'm no longer surprised. What does TES stand for?

It's the Times Educational Supplement. The go to weekly paper for teachers full of jobs and education articles.
Sadly now morphing into predator's dream looking at that article.

SinnerBoy · 20/03/2023 22:21

ResisterRex · Today 20:29

More examples

Well, that's shocking, but sadly, I'm no longer surprised. What does TES stand for?

2fallsfromSSA · 20/03/2023 20:40

Thanks for sharing. We have raised concerns with Tes on many occasions.

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ResisterRex · 20/03/2023 20:29

More examples Sad

TES sex education lesson plans include pro-life and polyamory

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c2ac4cc6-c73a-11ed-84e7-e2697ffed9a9?shareToken=fbf9de8e41f39e7a0522f3d656e15386

TheBiologyStupid · 17/03/2023 21:18

Archived copy of Resister's Telegraph article: archive.ph/qRI9z

ResisterRex · 17/03/2023 20:50

Another case where it never happened...

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/17/drag-queen-teaches-pupils-conversion-therapy-spectacular-safeguarding/

Drag queen teaches pupils about conversion therapy in ‘spectacular safeguarding fail’

"After the sessions, the DQSH Twitter account posted three photos of the children watching the classes, which were then deleted.
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DQSH said in a statement: “All appropriate procedures were followed by the school and by Drag Queen Story Hour UK. No photos taken in the school were taken by Aida or by anyone from Drag Queen Story Hour UK.”"
The views and responses from the inspectorate, the school, and the government?

"In 2020, Estyn, the Welsh government’s Ofsted, hailed Lewis School Pengam, founded in 1729, as an example of best practice on LGBT issues in a guide for other schools on “promoting inclusion”."

And

"A spokesman for Caerphilly council, which oversees the school, said: “All appropriate procedures were followed by the school. No concerns have been raised by the school community.”

The Welsh government did not respond to a request for comment. Estyn defended its 2020 guide as “vital to help promote and celebrate LGBT issues”."

QuietlyLurkingintheCorner · 17/03/2023 15:07

Just listened to this. Tanya was fab! I especially enjoyed her response to Adam Fleming putting her into the 25% of adults opposed to RSE when she'd been really clear from the outset that she (and SSA) support it.

What struck me listening to Sophie talk about content was first how is it possible that she hadn't heard of the dice game before? Does she really have no idea what her competitors are offering to schools? Cos she bloody well should! Then also the disingenuous stuff about not wanting learning content taken out of context (I heard that as 'parents are probably too stupid/bigoted to understand.') I mean, really? If your resources aren't clear enough to sufficiently explain learning outcomes, you need to rethink them, surely?

TheBiologyStupid · 17/03/2023 14:33

dimorphism · 17/03/2023 14:02

And the expecting children to be adult enough to have the confidence to step out when they're in a room with an adult who is responsible for their safety and wellbeing, is in a position of authority and is telling them it's ok to do it? Where everyone else is doing it and they'd have to have super confidence to stand up? Grooming 101.

I hate this idea that children are mini-adults that are confident enough to challenge those in authority over them. That in itself is anti-safeguarding. Children are not mini adults, if they were they'd be living independently and in jobs, not in school.

Indeed, and reportedly the kid that did have the guts to stand up and deny the "73 genders" nonsense being spouted in class in the Isle of Man was asked to leave.

dimorphism · 17/03/2023 14:03

Yes, it is abusive and it's eroding boundaries to make it easier for adults to abuse in more serious ways.

dimorphism · 17/03/2023 14:02

And the expecting children to be adult enough to have the confidence to step out when they're in a room with an adult who is responsible for their safety and wellbeing, is in a position of authority and is telling them it's ok to do it? Where everyone else is doing it and they'd have to have super confidence to stand up? Grooming 101.

I hate this idea that children are mini-adults that are confident enough to challenge those in authority over them. That in itself is anti-safeguarding. Children are not mini adults, if they were they'd be living independently and in jobs, not in school.

EnfysPreseli · 17/03/2023 13:59

I think the playdoh genital modelling activity, and probably a few other supposedly innocuous craft activities (e.g. from Welsh Government's dodgy RSE gurus) cross over into abusive. If there's a message for younger children about needing to feel comfortable with and to consent to affectionate hugs or kisses, surely it's obvious that getting meaningful consent for these sorts of activities is necessary and isn't straightforward. What about the child who is mortified by this? What about the child who is embarrassingly over-enthusiastic? And obviously what about the child who could be either of those things because of abuse? It's not like any other curriculum area.

dimorphism · 17/03/2023 13:59

Bloody hell - it's grooming. Actually of both the children and the teachers whose brains must have either fallen out, been indoctrinated or are paedophiles themselves to think this is ok. NO decent person thinks this is ok. None.

It's fine to model playdoh genitals; it's fine to touch playdoh genitals, what comes next for the paedo, eh? It's obvious. It's breaking down boundaries and COMPLETELY against what is in KCSIE - ALL providers should be trained on KCSIE and safeguarding as all school staff have to be.

Massive ginormous safeguarding loophole that can be seen from space.

People need to lose their jobs. And DfE need to get a grip.

SinnerBoy · 17/03/2023 13:45

2fallsfromSSA · Today 12:35

twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1636700458516357121?s=20

Tanya comments on the playdoh activity. Children have come home upset that they have had to sit in a mixed sex groups and model and model genitals.

Good grief! This was going on in a school and not one teacher thought to intervene! Not one single teacher thought, "What? Hang on a minute this is completely unacceptable, stop this now."

I find that absolutely mind boggling, it's very difficult to accept that it was allowed to happen, without comment.

TheBiologyStupid · 17/03/2023 13:30

Only caught the last few minutes, so I'll have to wait until it appears on BBC Sounds. It appeared to be the second time this week that the BBC has discussed Miriam Cates's question at PMQs and said her claims have been debunked, but without having her on air to defend them. (The other time was on Woman's Hour earlier this week.)

2fallsfromSSA · 17/03/2023 12:35

twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1636700458516357121?s=20

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ResisterRex · 17/03/2023 12:31

I am behind on R4.

The explanation of the "play dough activity" by the provider is so, so misinformed. The idea that children could step out, if they're embarrassed is simply wrong. No one is going to put themselves in that kind of situation.

Most worryingly, it misses the children and adults who've been sexually abused. Which quite rightly, Safe Schools picks up on.

I paused it at this point as I found it really upsetting that we could even have a situation in which "sex education providers" could be permitted to even push lessons like this. How are we at this point? It's so wrong.

And it could all have been done so well. It's such a damaging waste.

ArabellaScott · 17/03/2023 09:52

Ooh, great! Thanks!

Vebrithien · 17/03/2023 09:46

Exciting!!!

2fallsfromSSA · 17/03/2023 09:45

Just popping in to say that Tanya Carter from SSA will be live on Radio 4 at noon today debating RSE with Sophie Whitehead from the School of Sexuality Education. Please tune in. We hope to do some live tweeting too.

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ArabellaScott · 17/03/2023 07:10

Well done, eastend!

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