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But it is "in schools" - help SSA amplify these terrible failures of safeguarding

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2fallsfromSSA · 15/03/2023 10:45

Over the last week or so, education leaders have denied that inappropriate and often unlawful RSE is being taught in our schools.

This thread makes for very sobering reading and needs to be in front of your MP and the Secretary of State for Education. Parents need to holding leaders to account and asking what the government is going to do about this horrific failure of safeguarding.

twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1635573520942891008?s=20

Please write to your MP and the Secretary of State for Education and include this thread. Copy in OFSTED and the Children's Commissioner

If you are on twitter please share and tag your MP, Gillian Keegan and the Children's Commissioner. (need the @ symbol before) Rachel_deSouza, GillianKeegan, ofstednews

www.writetothem.com/
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Also, use this thread to talk to you own schools. Find out what is being taught and demand to see the resources. People are finally listening, we need to ensure they now act.

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WarriorN · 24/03/2023 10:36

Linking this thread to flag up, Monday's woman's hour prog is on RSE in schools

Woman's hour on RSE teaching www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4770096-womans-hour-on-rse-teaching

ResisterRex · 24/03/2023 10:18

I do understand the idea behind a public inquiry but it will take years. That's years in which those pushing this stuff can retire, move upwards, or move to consultancy. Children will pay the price.

The pressure to hold one can be useful in pushing for changes now and for the much-trailed consultation to
happen now. But it needs oversight as it does seem to be a concern held by many that the DfE appears to be compromised. Or: too involved in the current mess to engender trust in the process without maybe something like another department involved too.

2fallsfromSSA · 23/03/2023 22:28

I think our thread detailing all the things that "don't happen in schools" has come to an end. It's about 100 tweets long and has run for a week. We have rounded it off with a poll. We would like a public enquiry.

twitter.com/safeschools_uk/status/1639028439427547141?s=46&t=Wq3dfWqv1vG3lWpAJf89FQ

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ResisterRex · 23/03/2023 18:01

But of course it's not happening

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/23/dont-know-who-fancy-queer-schools-tell-children/

"Scottish children as young as 11 are being taught in school that they are “queer” if they do not yet know their sexual orientation, it has emerged.
Teaching materials at Boroughmuir High School, Edinburgh’s top state school, also claim that there are three biological sexes and suggest that highly controversial conceptss_ around sex and gender are facts.
A presentation prepared for classes in the first year of high school is now being "reviewed". It follows a backlash from parents who fear the lessons have been taking place without their knowledge for several years.
A separate “gender neutral language guide””_ prepared for staff at another Scottish school, Wick High in Caithness, tells staff not to use terms such as mother, brother or sister to avoid upsetting pupils who identify as trans.
The documents were obtained by The Telegraph amid growing concerns that disputed gender ideology theories backed by the SNP government are being inappropriately promoted in classrooms."

LittleFingerStrength · 22/03/2023 19:13

CSA has been normalised, no arrests and prosecution happen.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 22/03/2023 18:54

FOJN · 22/03/2023 18:19

This is from the US but demonstrates just how low a priority safeguarding has become.

Given what he's speaking about, recent revelations about UK groups suggest that identical allegations could be made against some of them, either for their materials for UK schools or worse, having the same type of discussions about porn & sex with children in schools. Think of the Proud Trust's dice game if you're sceptical.

FOJN · 22/03/2023 18:19

This is from the US but demonstrates just how low a priority safeguarding has become.

ScrollingLeaves · 22/03/2023 14:00

Why is supposed to be a good idea to get all barely pubescent children masturbating?

ScrollingLeaves · 22/03/2023 13:58

Just horrible.

ResisterRex · 22/03/2023 12:53

That thing that doesn't happen again:

twitter.com/famedtrust/status/1638510207209820168?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

DameMaud · 21/03/2023 22:04

MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/03/2023 21:13

A powerful intervention from Transgender Trend that spells out precisely how queer theory based gender identity teaching "has already undermined safeguarding in schools through an equality, diversity & inclusion and anti-bullying route".

Well worth reading:

www.transgendertrend.com/identity-politics-sex-education-schools/

Boom!
Thank you for this MrsOverton

MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/03/2023 21:28

It's so good isn't it Nils? The Transgender Trend website has so many informative in depth articles.

nilsmousehammer · 21/03/2023 21:17

That is extremely well put! Thank you for sharing the link, a real precis of the key issues and dots joined.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/03/2023 21:13

A powerful intervention from Transgender Trend that spells out precisely how queer theory based gender identity teaching "has already undermined safeguarding in schools through an equality, diversity & inclusion and anti-bullying route".

Well worth reading:

www.transgendertrend.com/identity-politics-sex-education-schools/

nilsmousehammer · 21/03/2023 19:06

It doesn't add up, does it? The lack of adding up is always stark.

On one hand shouting about love, inclusion, kindness, tolerance, diversity - and in another breath saying the most abhorrent, heartless, cold, intolerant and insensitive things.

But the common and consist factor you can always find, is that the sound bites about love are always about one group of people and their best interests and the appalling views that would do justice to Alf Garnett are always aimed at everybody else, particularly those not rushing to enable the first group.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/03/2023 18:50

ResisterRex · 21/03/2023 18:41

John Nicolson (SNP MP) asked about this on Twitter. He got an answer from a someone saying their 11yo child was taught inappropriate things. His response was to blame the child:

twitter.com/mrjohnnicolson/status/1638105170415427584?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

That man raises so many red flags - a dreadful comment to make to a parent about their child (especially given the subject).

ResisterRex · 21/03/2023 18:41

John Nicolson (SNP MP) asked about this on Twitter. He got an answer from a someone saying their 11yo child was taught inappropriate things. His response was to blame the child:

twitter.com/mrjohnnicolson/status/1638105170415427584?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

ScrollingLeaves · 21/03/2023 15:38

Never has it been more important to try to establish some clarity in the law related the the meaning and importance of “sex” as biological, so please if you have not done so have a look here and give it reinforcement:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4758082-petition-to-update-the-equality-act-thread-3

ScrollingLeaves · 21/03/2023 15:32

But apparently, even if the BBC did withdraw their videos, the ideologues who made them are still out and about teaching PSHE in schools.

ScrollingLeaves · 21/03/2023 15:26

Thank you OP. This is so very important. No more pretending it isn’t happening.

I have just found out from this thread below that
the BBC itself was teaching gender identity ideology until it was forced to withdraw it!

Malcolm Clark on Twitter: "1./ What are your children really learning about sex and gender? On BBC Politics Live John Nicolson claims Miriam Cates MP was not telling the truth about troubling, unscientific gender ideology being taught in schools; in particular that kids were told there may be 72 genders.👇 t.co/uCEPN4XKS1" / Twitter

twitter.com/TwisterFilm/status/1638191493486657538

WarriorN · 21/03/2023 15:02

Oh yes, I hear you and fully agree.

eastendmyfreind · 21/03/2023 14:42

WarriorN · 21/03/2023 11:30

They've always been awful. Any teacher can wack something in and not all teachers are necessarily experts.

What strikes me as a parent governor is that while I fundamentally believe teachers have the best intentions, the wave towards inclusivity has prevented people from speaking up where things have gone too far. Teachers need to be more open to the idea that there is more than one view and be respectful of that, particularly in a secular, multicultural society.

For example, my school has been part of a county wide agenda to 'decolonise the curriculum' (their phrase not mine). While a lot of this was needed to make black students feel represented, some of it goes just too far.

In the flurry to make everything inclusive and open, and not hurt anyone's feelings, I think we risk losing the benefits of what we already have in the curriculum and move schools away from teaching 'just the facts' into teaching opinions as facts. So instead of just the birds and the bees, you get how to have anal sex!

The prevailing wind for (in my view) overly "celebrating" and putting minority identities and interests on a pedestal we are ushering in some very extreme concepts and behaviours to kids who it's already been shown are massively vulnerable to sexual assault at school.

I've never been a Tory but advocating for a neutral, back to basics agenda is where I find myself as a result.

WarriorN · 21/03/2023 11:30

They've always been awful. Any teacher can wack something in and not all teachers are necessarily experts.

borntobequiet · 21/03/2023 06:00

Thank you. I complained to the BBC about the evident bias in the AntiSocial programme.

Those TES resources are shocking. (Having said that, many of the resources on the TES site are awful rubbish. I wouldn’t even bother to look there.)

SinnerBoy · 21/03/2023 05:34

WarriorN · Today 05:14

Jesus I missed this! Jfc

Well, these threads are extremely busy at the moment, I keep having to go back, having missed a sentence, or a post.