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Kate Forbes backs JKR on trans rights.

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ArabellaScott · 13/03/2023 20:14

All three SNP leader candidates interviewed on Sky News just now.

It's a live channel, so no idea how to share a time stamp, sorry. Anyway:

Question: 'Is JK Rowling a national treasure'

Humza: 'Yes, I think she's done amazing in terms of the books she's written, but I disagree ve-HEM-EN-ently with her on the issue of transgender rights.'

Kate: 'Yes. And I do think she's brave'.

Interviewer: 'Do you disagree with her on the issue of transgender rights?'

Kate; 'No, I don't disagree with her'.

Ash: 'I think she's a national treasure, yes. I think she was very brave to speak out on an issue where many women who had raised legitimate concerns were receiving you know, quite threatening communications, so yes, she's definitely a national treasure.'

[Followed by a loud bang off-stage, either the producer fainting, Nicola dropping her Harry Potter book, or as suggested elsewhere, someone being shot.]

https://www.youtube.com/live/9Auq9mYxFEE?feature=share

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beastlyslumber · 14/03/2023 14:57

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2023 22:02

Humza is mostly enamoured of Humzelf.

Haha!

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ArabellaScott · 14/03/2023 14:11

They used to be known as the 'Tartan Tories'. So, yes, a conscious decision to be LEFT and PROGRESSSSSSSSSSSSIVE was to differentiate from a WM Tory government and I guess to claim ground that used to be Labour.

I don't know what the membership is like now, but yes, probably largely fairly centrist. Scotland is supposedly traditionally more left leaning, but I'm never quite sure about the truth of that. Some areas are - Glasgow was always Labour. But others are more Tory - rural areas particularly.

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NotHavingIt · 14/03/2023 14:02

ArabellaScott · 14/03/2023 13:57

Yes, your last sentence has it.

The SNP has been controlled by a very small bunch of people over the past few years, and its got a bit murky.

Regan or Forbes are likely to have a clear out and let in a lot of sunlight. Humza will keep the gravy train on the tracks -for a few months, at least.

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Even if he's the least credible.... so self destructive.

i think people outside of Scottish politics imagine that the SNP is full on woke and left -liberal, when in fact I should imagine that there are many members who are actually far more conservative and centrist. I guess that was the tactic used to see off the Labour Party?

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ArabellaScott · 14/03/2023 13:57

NotHavingIt · 14/03/2023 13:55

I'm not in Scotland ( though I did used to live in Aberdeenshire) and am not familair with SNP politics, but why is it that nicola sturgeon might want Humza over the other two candidates? Is it purely down to Self ID?

Could it be because he'll do as he's told and toe whichever line?

Yes, your last sentence has it.

The SNP has been controlled by a very small bunch of people over the past few years, and its got a bit murky.

Regan or Forbes are likely to have a clear out and let in a lot of sunlight. Humza will keep the gravy train on the tracks -for a few months, at least.

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ArabellaScott · 14/03/2023 13:56

purplevipersgrass · 14/03/2023 13:52

Humza came across very badly on what I saw. Talk about talking down to the women.

Yes. He's like a teenager trying to impress people. Repeating the same 'I've got better ratings than you, that's in three weeks, imagine what I could do in three months, eh? Eh?'

Embarrassing, tbh.

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NotHavingIt · 14/03/2023 13:55

I'm not in Scotland ( though I did used to live in Aberdeenshire) and am not familair with SNP politics, but why is it that nicola sturgeon might want Humza over the other two candidates? Is it purely down to Self ID?

Could it be because he'll do as he's told and toe whichever line?

purplevipersgrass · 14/03/2023 13:52

Humza came across very badly on what I saw. Talk about talking down to the women.

Tinysoxxx · 14/03/2023 13:24

I was watching Masters of the Universe at the weekend. I think Humza was secretly calling out for he-man with his coded pronunciation. I think he-man would be GC though.

Grammarnut · 14/03/2023 12:41

Me too, though I know it's Greek in origin so must be 'ee'. I knew someone at uni who always, always said Aristophanes as if it rhymed with planes even though he knew it didn't.

Helleofabore · 14/03/2023 12:08

See, I knew hyperbole from high school maths! It always had a lovely curve to the sound. Grin

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ArabellaScott · 14/03/2023 11:54

rioseco · 14/03/2023 11:27

Is there any chance that KF could sweep up AR's votes and beat Yousless in the second round?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Scottish_National_Party_leadership_election

I believe so. It's an STV system. But you don't hve to vote for all three candidates. So it depends ...

Polls show Forbes and Yousaf pretty much neck and neck among SNP members.

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ArabellaScott · 14/03/2023 11:50

Hi PER bo lee is how I say it.

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tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 14/03/2023 11:31

That got me thinking about words you never hear, just read. One in particular has been 'popular' recently - hyperbole. I have since heard it being said (high-per-bo-lee) but internally, when I see it not hear it, I still think 'hyper-bowl'.

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I say hyper-bowl, is that not right?

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rioseco · 14/03/2023 11:28

If he doesn't get 50% in the first round..

rioseco · 14/03/2023 11:27

Is there any chance that KF could sweep up AR's votes and beat Yousless in the second round?

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ArabellaScott · 14/03/2023 11:20

MorrisZapp · 14/03/2023 10:34

I'm sure the daft article who plays Hermaninny would agree with Humself.

😁

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lifeturnsonadime · 14/03/2023 11:20

What does Humza say that JKR has said that is anti trans?

I'd also like to know what rights he thinks trans people don't already have? And why he thinks they need more rights than everyone else, even when this demonstrably (think Adam Graham) has the starting point of putting women at a detriment?

Otherwise yeh he's just another common or garden misogynist.

Helleofabore · 14/03/2023 11:19

ArabellaScott · 14/03/2023 11:16

Tbh it was Humzas EMPHATIC enunciation more than his pronunciation that I found amusing. He had to close his eyes and squeeze out the word to show how much he disagreed with the national treasure.

Yes. He was very vehement about how he disagreed. Grin Grin

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ArabellaScott · 14/03/2023 11:16

Tbh it was Humzas EMPHATIC enunciation more than his pronunciation that I found amusing. He had to close his eyes and squeeze out the word to show how much he disagreed with the national treasure.

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Abhannmor · 14/03/2023 11:08

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2023 22:02

Humza is mostly enamoured of Humzelf.

Noticed he praised her books. No mention of her women's refuge or other charity work.

Dodgy character. Didn't support gay marriage.

Helleofabore · 14/03/2023 10:45

It is not uncommon amongst my friends where I grew up. We all grew up reading books but the words might have fallen out of verbal use. So, we knew the word but not heard it, or some words have been pronounced very differently too. For instance, furore.

MorrisZapp · 14/03/2023 10:34

I'm sure the daft article who plays Hermaninny would agree with Humself.

DeanVolecapeAKAelderberry · 14/03/2023 10:32

I always remember a radio thing with a University admissions interviewer(not sure exactly where, and long ago) saying how positively they always regarded an interviewee who used a big word correctly but pronounced it wrong, because it showed that they had done independent reading rather than being hothoused and trained by their school.

WhereYouLeftIt · 14/03/2023 10:14

Helleofabore · 13/03/2023 22:09

Nah. Just have realised I have been mispronouncing it forever… 😁But hey, I have never really heard it pronounced before. Just read it.

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That got me thinking about words you never hear, just read. One in particular has been 'popular' recentlyGrin - hyperbole. I have since heard it being said (high-per-bo-lee) but internally, when I see it not hear it, I still think 'hyper-bowl'.

WhereYouLeftIt · 13/03/2023 22:24

ScribblingPixie · 13/03/2023 21:34

Why did he feel the need to use the word vehemently?

Big Word Syndrome. 'I use Big Words to sound clever and impressive.'

'Strongly' would have done just fine.

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