Page 8 | TikToker who exposed Jeffrey Marsh hounded bullied

DerekFaker · 2023-03-13T07:13:52+00:00

Meet the new progressiveism. A muslim woman being hounded and bullied for criticising a white man. This is disgusting. I hope she and her family are going to be ok. https://youtu.be/tmtIxOqOKNc

lifeturnsonadime · 13/03/2023 14:55

Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 14:40

I would expect someone with 7M followers to be aware that their words have impact.

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Well the same could be said for the JM account couldn't it.

You would think the fact that his account is perceived by so many to amount to grooming would have an impact on his tone and words.

What is he trying to achieve if not to break bonds between parent and child?

Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 14:54

beastlyslumber · 13/03/2023 14:53

What are you even talking about?

This is one of those "stop victim blaming" things.

Also one of those "I'm so sick of men pretending to be women and referring to themselves as witches" things.

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What are YOU even talking about?

Also one of those "I'm so sick of men pretending to be women and referring to themselves as witches" things.

Where has that happened?

beastlyslumber · 13/03/2023 14:53

Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 13:48

Oh no, is this one of those 'We are the witches who cannot be burned' things?'

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What are you even talking about?

This is one of those "stop victim blaming" things.

Also one of those "I'm so sick of men pretending to be women and referring to themselves as witches" things.

Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 14:52

DerekFaker · 13/03/2023 14:50

And what exactly do you think she should do. Just shut up?

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Nope.

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DerekFaker · 13/03/2023 14:50

Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 14:40

I would expect someone with 7M followers to be aware that their words have impact.

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And what exactly do you think she should do. Just shut up?

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Ohyoudodoyou · 13/03/2023 14:48

I suspect that the change petition to 'ban' her has been removed.

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DerekFaker · 13/03/2023 14:48

Boiledbeetle · 13/03/2023 14:02

God this guy makes me feel unclean just watching him.

He sets off every single alarm going!!!

How can some people not see this for what it is?

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There is absolutely no sincerity or warmth in those eyes. Have you seen the "You WILL respect us" video? Brrrr

I feel the same way about Dylan Mulvaney, but at least they don't appear to be targeting young people.

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sanluca · 13/03/2023 14:47

Bold fail, sorry.

I am just amazed at the victim blaming and disregard for safeguarding demonstrated by season. It smacks of the same argument TRAs use, that men will rape women anyway, so there is no problem with letting men into womens changing rooms

sanluca · 13/03/2023 14:45

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Because again...children cannot go NC without SS involvement

They can certainly exchange messages online, out of sight of their parents however. Unfortunately.

And that sadly is the fact for any young person on the internet. I do not know what the solution is.*

One solution is that if anyone tries to tell children online to stop talking to their parents, people call that person out and tell them to stop it. This is called safeguarding: putting measures in place, by law, by social pressure, to minimise the chance of bad situations occuring.

Not by shrugging your shoulders and saying oh well, bad things happen, bad luck, better next time

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2023 14:42

The blame for stalking, threatening and abusing someone lies with the person stalking, threatening and abusing. Not the victim. No matter how many followers they have on social media.

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2023 14:42

So how many followers is the cut off point for raising safeguarding concerns?

At what point does it become the fault of the person with lots of followers to not make people stalk and threaten her?

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2023 14:41

A 16, 17 year old can go 'no contact' with their parents. They are still in many respects counted as a child and most YP of that age are still really in need of guidance and support from their family. But they are legally able to do the 'no contact' thing.

Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 14:40

DerekFaker · 13/03/2023 14:39

You expect someone with 7m followers to somehow be able to police her followers? How about the people making the comments are held to account instead (by which I don't mean the type of behaviour she has been subjected to).

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I would expect someone with 7M followers to be aware that their words have impact.

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DerekFaker · 13/03/2023 14:39

Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 12:32

Yea, I stand by it. She has 7M people following her. With that comes responsibility. There is a lot of transphobic hatred she has also managed to whip up - her comment section is horrific.

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You expect someone with 7m followers to somehow be able to police her followers? How about the people making the comments are held to account instead (by which I don't mean the type of behaviour she has been subjected to).

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Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 14:37

FrostyFifi · 13/03/2023 14:33

Because again...children cannot go NC without SS involvement

They can certainly exchange messages online, out of sight of their parents however. Unfortunately.

And that sadly is the fact for any young person on the internet. I do not know what the solution is.

Tinner01 · 13/03/2023 14:36

This is the progressivism they support. The other day I saw a black radical feminist absolutely hounded for embracing/reclaiming the term ‘TERF’.

black feminists being attacked for not including white men?

FrostyFifi · 13/03/2023 14:33

Because again...children cannot go NC without SS involvement

They can certainly exchange messages online, out of sight of their parents however. Unfortunately.

Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 14:27

www.tiktok.com/@thejeffreymarsh/video/7085517563291094318?lang=en

I have found this - but its not aimed at children? Because again...children cannot go NC without SS involvement.

Helleofabore · 13/03/2023 14:25

Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 14:21

Because I have not seen one? Have asked above for a link.

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That you have entered a thread without actually knowing what you are talking about is your own issue I am afraid.

We really don't need to present you with links.

You are defending something you haven't actually seen, and you are very confidently doing so.

I think if you choose to engage with a thread the way you have, the onus is on you to do your own research.

AlisonDonut · 13/03/2023 14:23

drwitch · 13/03/2023 14:18

Their motives are almost irrelevant. Their language Inc that of their body is like a primary school teacher. They might be telling 25 year olds to go no contact, but unhappy 15 year olds will think it's for them

They are normalising a practice that is dangerous even if JM means no harm

Don't most of his videos start 'hi kids/I'm talking to the kids/other iterations of kids'?

Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 14:21

Helleofabore · 13/03/2023 14:18

You make a claim: "its quite a leap to say he encourages children to go no contact with their parents" based on not even seeing the relevant videos?

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Because I have not seen one? Have asked above for a link.

drwitch · 13/03/2023 14:18

Their motives are almost irrelevant. Their language Inc that of their body is like a primary school teacher. They might be telling 25 year olds to go no contact, but unhappy 15 year olds will think it's for them

They are normalising a practice that is dangerous even if JM means no harm

Helleofabore · 13/03/2023 14:18

Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 14:16

Can you please link me to a video of theirs where this is stated? I have only seen videos from their adult focused Patreon that encourages that.

Children are unable to go NC with their parents, not sure exactly how that would work without social service involvement to facilitate.

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You make a claim: "its quite a leap to say he encourages children to go no contact with their parents" based on not even seeing the relevant videos?

Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 14:16

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2023 14:12

its quite a leap to say he encourages children to go no contact with their parents

That's where Shamirum's edited video might have been useful, had she not been compelled to delete it because of someone stalking and threatening her kids.

Marsh has made several videos where he encourages children to go 'no contact' with their parents. He focuses on this really quite uncommon and extreme course of action enthusiastically. I take your point he could be addressing adult children with these videos, but equally he frequently starts his videos wth 'hi kids' and 'hey kids' etc. He is not making any legal or ethical boundaries clear, as anyone who is working as a therapist or counsellor ought to.

I've no idea what his overall intent is, but he is positioning himself as some kind of guru based on no discernible qualifications or relevant experience. He is encouraging potentially risky or harmful behaviour, either out of ignorance or for a different reason.

Can you please link me to a video of theirs where this is stated? I have only seen videos from their adult focused Patreon that encourages that.

Children are unable to go NC with their parents, not sure exactly how that would work without social service involvement to facilitate.

Helleofabore · 13/03/2023 14:12

Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 14:10

Looks to me that when they make videos aimed at children, it's stated at the start of the video that its specifically for them.

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And they are all available on tiktok no?

So, him just not saying ‘hi kids’ and changing it to ‘hi love’ a term of endearment a parent might use for a child and this is an adult encouraging children to join their ‘glitter family’, is the special signal it is not for children?