TikToker who exposed Jeffrey Marsh hounded bullied

Because she put together the components of this individual's videos that led her to believe that this individual is acting inappropriately towards children???

I am not sure just how much clearer we can make this.

She didn't 'stitch' together disconnected components to make it look like this person was saying something they were not. That would be clearly 'fake' and dishonest.

But now you are claiming that using a well known video technique that involves no 'faking' or even splicing off to misrepresent is her acting in a way that makes her responsible for the actions of people who cannot control their violence inclinations with the confident:

"She made the video for clicks and likes. Its now bit her firmly in the backside."

and

"You don't think her choosing to stitch a video that JM made about trans people to accuse him of grooming wouldn't then create a massive pile on that all trans people are sexual predators?"

By the way, I don't believe she or anyone else on this thread has made the claim of 'all trans people are sexual predators'. However, it is a very well known tactic, the cognitive distortion of using overgeneralisation, blaming and polarisation. And is very obvious when you see it in action.

"Why?"

Why? To bring this male individual's behaviour online and their actions to public attention.

And it doesn't mean that any person should have to be scared of threats in doing so.

She chose that video to accuse him of being a groomer.

Err that will be because he is a groomer. He's posted no end of videos appealing to children; your parents fucked up, go no contact, I love you, I'll be your family etc etc.

Combine this with the message TRA's send out that society wants to deny trans people's existence or "genocide" them then it's perfectly understandable that confused teens would want to find a sanctuary and hey presto here's Jeffrey to be your loving internet mum.

You don't seem to understand the difference between being a groomer and a predator. Predators will nearly always groom or capitalise on grooming done by others but groomers pave the way for predators and abusers without necessarily engage in abuse directly. Some adults can unwittingly participate in grooming because they have been groomed themselves.

Whatever JM's motives he is grooming children and that makes children vulnerable to predators and abusers.

Stop making excuses for a creepy them.

Woman, thanks.

jesus wept!

Of course you claim there’s no evidence. I knew that’s what you’d come back with.

point 6 would be Marsh deletes/makes private the videos.

If anyone could be bothered hunting around, but of it will be stitched with criticism of Marsh’s behaviour.

just marsh. And individual. Not all trans people either. You seem determined not to comprehend this.

This is the problem with lionising self appointed influencers and activists and giving them cult status as representatives of whole groups of people. People simply will not allow them to be criticised when their actions deserve it.

she made a video (presumably for humour) stitched with one of JMs videos

Yes, that's how people, including trans activists, make Tiktok reaction videos.

@Seasonofthewitch83 back to Twitter please - I think you'll find all the MRA's/TRA's over there, there's a good boy 😁

Rightyhoo.

Anyway, to get back to the thread.

Has anyone tagged Ricky Gervais to try and alert him to this?

She could have just made a video saying 'Hey, I have worries about this person - here are some things they have said that i think are safeguarding issues' but she didnt, she made a video (presumably for humour) stitched with one of JMs videos where they discussed trans people, so she could mock their speech from the video.

Still waiting for any evidence that isn't spliced clips from a right winger YouTube account....

Bingo. That's your rebuttal for JM's behaviour is it? That it is called out by a right winger?

Yes, it should be irrelevant. Which is why she should have made a standalone video voicing her concerns.

Giving the evidence of his own words presumably, which is what she did.

She didnt, she fucked up, because all it's done is egg on the transphobes.

Transphobic to call out the predatory, grooming behaviour of someone who is trans, back to the sacred caste again.

Which is her right to do.

Yes. So do Ricky Gervais and Dave Chappelle. Pronouns are an endless source of comedy to most people, frankly.

Although a quick scroll through her videos and she has made her stance on trans rights clear with her 'funny' reaction videos to pronouns etc.

Which is her right to do.

Which bit of pigeon chess are we at now?

Yes, it should be irrelevant. Which is why she should have made a standalone video voicing her concerns.

What do you mean "a standalone video"? She would need to include clips of his videos.

Ah, you mean the one where he has his teeth gritted and says 'stop telling trans people they're inspirational'.

I see.

So it's MARSH who was discussing trans people.

I didnt say she did?

Where is the video where he specifically tells children to message him via patreon?

Where is the video where she is 'discussing trans people'.

To be honest, though, I don't see why she isn't allowed to discuss trans people. Lots of people discuss trans people, all the time.

JMs video was discussing trans people.

She chose that video to accuse him of being a groomer.

This 100% time and time again.

Where is the video where he specifically tells children to message him via patreon?

Okay, Season. Could you please provide what you mean by this:

'She could have just made a video about her safeguarding concerns. She didnt. She chose to stitch a video discussing trans people.'

I've not seen this video where she discusses trans people. Could you link or point me towards it, please?

Yes, it should be irrelevant. Which is why she should have made a standalone video voicing her concerns.

She didnt, she fucked up, because all it's done is egg on the transphobes.

His patreon wasnt aimed at children.

Very slowly since you seem to be struggling with comprehension…

1. Marsh set up a Patreon with no age restrictions.
2. Marsh made at least one video clearly targeted as ‘for kids’ encouraging them to join the Patreon and talk to Marsh more privately than the comments on public video sharing sites.
3. People noticed and criticised this online.
4. Marsh changed the settings on his Patreon and rebranded it as 18+.
5. Marsh then tried to gaslight the world into believing that the Patreon was always adults only and video marked ‘to kids’ encouraging them to use it were not targeted at children.

And here you are reinforcing the final step as of steps 1-4 don’t matter.

The video was about one person and their predatory behaviour why have you @Seasonofthewitch83 decided it is about all trans people?

Or are you saying that trans people are above any criticism or calling out of their behaviour due to the magic circle provided by that word 'trans'?

It really does seem that there is a sacred caste here, we've had posters making excuses and trying to put a different spin on a drag queen convicted and sentenced for rape of child and now here you are @Seasonofthewitch83 making excuses for JM and the one commonality is that special, unimpeachable status of trans.

Still waiting for any evidence that isn't spliced clips from a right winger YouTube account....

It's a video using clips of Marsh's own words. I don't think she referred to his trans status once. As far as I can see his trans status is completely irrelevant here.