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TikToker who exposed Jeffrey Marsh hounded bullied

316 replies

DerekFaker · 13/03/2023 07:13

Meet the new progressiveism. A muslim woman being hounded and bullied for criticising a white man.

This is disgusting. I hope she and her family are going to be ok.

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DerekFaker · 13/03/2023 17:13

Marsh's YouTube channel is curious. It goes from videos 2 years ago to videos 10 months ago. Most recent one is 1 month ago.

I suppose concentrating on Tik Tok videos might explain it.

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RichardBarrister · 13/03/2023 17:02

I only posted that the Change petition against her has been taken down but it might have looked like a link so was hidden.

One tiny positive in this grim circus.

RichardBarrister · 13/03/2023 17:00

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FOJN · 13/03/2023 16:54

There is a support hashtag for Shumirun with plenty of blue ticks tweeting it.

twitter.com/hashtag/istandwithshumirunnessa?src=hashtag_click

Boiledbeetle · 13/03/2023 16:42

m.youtube.com/watch?v=cdb7YPPcMPI

Jeffery Marsh's CREEPY Patreon Gets EXPOSED By Based TikTok Comedian

From about 3.45 is her tik tok with all the hi kids bits in.

slug · 13/03/2023 16:39

Anyone else playing Rules of Misogyny bingo?

nilsmousehammer · 13/03/2023 16:35

The pattern is quite striking really. The responsibility is always on anyone but the people from the group.

This is in effect blaming a person for daring to protest when their foot was stamped on, and causing the stamper to hit everyone in the vicinity in the ensuing tantrum.

It is not the responsibility of every non TQ+ political person on the planet to endure silently for fear of accidentally triggering appalling behaviour in a TQ+ political person. They're going to need to take responsibility for themselves.

sanluca · 13/03/2023 16:32

Its fine to call out potentially creepy behaviour from anyone.
*
It is important to be aware that when you do so, you are aware that if this person belongs to a marginalised group that are often accused of being predator etc, that you make the distinction clear.*

Be careful not just about what you say, even if you are right in saying it, but also how you say it. Where have we heard that before? Oh yes, Maya's courtcase.

All designed to ensure a group of people are so terrified of saying anything negative about another group of people, that the first group says nothing anymore. Unlike the second group of people that can say anything absolutely awful about the first group, who are now also too terrified to defend themselves...

beastlyslumber · 13/03/2023 16:32

Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 15:25

Still waiting for any evidence that isn't spliced clips from a right winger YouTube account....

Evidence of what?

RichardBarrister · 13/03/2023 16:32

And so Shumirun is still responsible for the people who are responding to her public video.

yeah. we know.

I find it interesting that women are held responsible for everything while young Jeffrey claims to represent trans people while displaying behaviour that is accurately characterised as grooming. So it is he that is making a link, not us. We know that not all trans people are predators and have always clearly maintained that.

Moving on, I really hope that the police response has been satisfactory for a change, esp in light of Suellas statement.

I think this will serve to raise awareness of these issues in the Muslim community as well as some are horrified at how she’s been treated.

IcakethereforeIam · 13/03/2023 16:26

Aside from advising her to delete her videos, are the Police doing anything else?

soddingspiderseason · 13/03/2023 16:24

Tricyrtis2022 · 13/03/2023 16:18

Could we get back to the subject of the thread, which is that a woman and her family are being subject to violent threats? The pages of sealioning are getting dull.

Absolutely agree. TRAs are well versed at defending the indefensible, and derailing any thread about women daring to challenge their narrative.

IcakethereforeIam · 13/03/2023 16:24

Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 16:13

Your reading comprehension is...interesting.

Yours is incomprehensible.

Artisticpaint · 13/03/2023 16:23

I wish Gary Linekar and Billy Bragg would defend this lady

IcakethereforeIam · 13/03/2023 16:22

Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 16:09

Apologies - the COMMENTS on her video were full of transphobia, not about JM.

Take it up with the people who made the comments.

Helleofabore · 13/03/2023 16:21

Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 16:07

Then why were her videos filled with transphobia, if it was JUST about JM?

Words matter.

No one denies that there are some people who are transphobic. However, you have also not given examples of what is transphobic.

These days, that word can mean anything including a wide range of content that is not transphobic but is exaggerated in hyperbolic accusations intended to silence the people who are still worried about being accused of being transphobic. It is emotionally manipulative.

That accusation has significantly lost its emotive power over the past three months since the discussions about male rapists being put into female prisons.

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2023 16:21

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/03/2023 16:19

*Could we get back to the subject of the thread, which is that a woman and her family are being subject to violent threats? The pages of sealioning are getting dull.^

This.

Yes.

Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 16:20

Tricyrtis2022 · 13/03/2023 16:18

Could we get back to the subject of the thread, which is that a woman and her family are being subject to violent threats? The pages of sealioning are getting dull.

Turning off notifications now too as its derailed again

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/03/2023 16:19

*Could we get back to the subject of the thread, which is that a woman and her family are being subject to violent threats? The pages of sealioning are getting dull.^

This.

DerekFaker · 13/03/2023 16:19

Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 16:16

She isn't responsible, but she has a responsibility to use her platform in a way that does not incite hate. Towards herself, or others.

Do you ARE victim blaming.

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JanesLittleGirl · 13/03/2023 16:18

@Seasonofthewitch83 You seem to have real difficulty with victim blaming, safeguarding and gaslighting. As I have said before on another thread, I can explain them to you but I can't understand them for you.

Tricyrtis2022 · 13/03/2023 16:18

Could we get back to the subject of the thread, which is that a woman and her family are being subject to violent threats? The pages of sealioning are getting dull.

Helleofabore · 13/03/2023 16:17

Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 16:13

Your reading comprehension is...interesting.

Not really.

Your logic is .... interesting.

I am just pointing out to readers what you seem to be saying and one of the inevitable consequences of either posting without the videos, or editing the video to hide the words relating to 'trans' people if that was even possible.

Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 16:16

She isn't responsible, but she has a responsibility to use her platform in a way that does not incite hate. Towards herself, or others.

Seasonofthewitch83 · 13/03/2023 16:15

Helleofabore · 13/03/2023 16:13

And so Shumirun is still responsible for the people who are responding to her public video.

yeah. we know.

Still victim blaming.

Nope, try again though.

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